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Re: AmigaOS 3.2.3 update available
« Reply #29 from previous page: April 12, 2025, 01:41:02 PM »
Great news that it works, but it seems like websites claiming it has specific updates for PiStorm are talking out of their proverbial . That would be big news - but its a lie as there is no mention of it in that release notes file.

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Re: AmigaOS 3.2.3 update available
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2025, 11:19:40 AM »
Still waiting for an answer on this . From where im sitting the various mainstream media outlets are saying that this update has support for PiStorm. Yet there is no mention of it in the release notes. This is a big deal so why is there nothing mentioned? Why did they do this instead of supporting the different SBC in the forthcoming A1200 board ?
 
All this is very very messy.

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Re: AmigaOS 3.2.3 update available
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2025, 12:21:47 PM »
Still waiting for an answer on this . From where im sitting the various mainstream media outlets are saying that this update has support for PiStorm. Yet there is no mention of it in the release notes. This is a big deal so why is there nothing mentioned? Why did they do this instead of supporting the different SBC in the forthcoming A1200 board ?
 
All this is very very messy.

Whats there to support? Pistorm works like any accelerator.
SBC? forthcoming A1200 board?
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2.3 update available
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2025, 01:03:39 PM »
Who would relabel ram? Never ever thought of doing that on in 40 years.

If your entire setup was in Welsh, would you still leave an anglosaxon “RAM Disk” on the desktop?

If you read the license, you will see that it’s a requirement that you set locales according to the location of the system, and so I set mine to Norwegian, but since we have two official variants of Norwegian, but only one being supported in the OS (and thus also breaking some regulations), I had to make my own locales despite the necessary files to do so not being available. Also I had to grab some code from the leaked OS sources to fix .country and .language files. Anyhow, "RAM Disk" is not good Norwegian, as we (like all Germanic languages except one) compound words consistently without spaces, and with hyphens following acronyms, so it would have to be "RAM-disk". But I prefer "Minne", as in "Memory", it isn’t a "disk" by any means, just a file system in memory.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2.3 update available
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2025, 01:23:51 PM »
If your entire setup was in Welsh, would you still leave an anglosaxon “RAM Disk” on the desktop?

If you read the license, you will see that it’s a requirement that you set locales according to the location of the system, and so I set mine to Norwegian, but since we have two official variants of Norwegian, but only one being supported in the OS (and thus also breaking some regulations), I had to make my own locales despite the necessary files to do so not being available. Also I had to grab some code from the leaked OS sources to fix .country and .language files. Anyhow, "RAM Disk" is not good Norwegian, as we (like all Germanic languages except one) compound words consistently without spaces, and with hyphens following acronyms, so it would have to be "RAM-disk". But I prefer "Minne", as in "Memory", it isn’t a "disk" by any means, just a file system in memory.

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Re: AmigaOS 3.2.3 update available
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2025, 04:23:44 PM »
If your entire setup was in Welsh, would you still leave an anglosaxon “RAM Disk” on the desktop?

If you read the license, you will see that it’s a requirement that you set locales according to the location of the system, and so I set mine to Norwegian, but since we have two official variants of Norwegian, but only one being supported in the OS (and thus also breaking some regulations), I had to make my own locales despite the necessary files to do so not being available. Also I had to grab some code from the leaked OS sources to fix .country and .language files. Anyhow, "RAM Disk" is not good Norwegian, as we (like all Germanic languages except one) compound words consistently without spaces, and with hyphens following acronyms, so it would have to be "RAM-disk". But I prefer "Minne", as in "Memory", it isn’t a "disk" by any means, just a file system in memory.

Welsh, why would I have my entire setup in Welsh. How do you know I'm Welsh, ;).

To be honest I could not care what RAM is labelled. I have always used RAM: and never thought twice about it.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2.3 update available
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2025, 08:06:13 PM »
Ye, lucky you. The “just use RAM:” is a bogus argument, both because a lot of software expand to volume name (rightfully so, normally you wish to adress the filesystem, and not the device the filesystem is atteched to, which might change over time), and because of the way the bug manifests itself - enter “ram:” in path gadget (dopus 4.12 on 68000) and it expands to just “:”, which isn’t ram: but rather root of whatever context dopus started from.

(Of course you’re Welsh, so quick to be on the defense regarding ram…)
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2.3 update available
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2025, 09:16:39 PM »
Ye, lucky you. The “just use RAM:” is a bogus argument, both because a lot of software expand to volume name (rightfully so, normally you wish to adress the filesystem, and not the device the filesystem is atteched to, which might change over time), and because of the way the bug manifests itself - enter “ram:” in path gadget (dopus 4.12 on 68000) and it expands to just “:”, which isn’t ram: but rather root of whatever context dopus started from.

(Of course you’re Welsh, so quick to be on the defense regarding ram…)

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Re: AmigaOS 3.2.3 update available
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2025, 08:53:52 AM »
Ye, lucky you. The “just use RAM:” is a bogus argument, both because a lot of software expand to volume name (rightfully so, normally you wish to adress the filesystem, and not the device the filesystem is atteched to, which might change over time), and because of the way the bug manifests itself - enter “ram:” in path gadget (dopus 4.12 on 68000) and it expands to just “:”, which isn’t ram: but rather root of whatever context dopus started from.

(Of course you’re Welsh, so quick to be on the defense regarding ram…)

Defend? not sure I follow. Just stating facts from my point of view.
So its a locale thing? when using different languages, issue appears?

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Re: AmigaOS 3.2.3 update available
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2025, 11:35:54 AM »
Whats there to support? Pistorm works like any accelerator. - No actually it does not - are you being facetious?
SBC?  - Im surprised you dont know what SBC stands for .
Forthcoming A1200 board? - Yes you are defenitely being facetious.

Now if anyone would care to answer my question as to why the media are stating that 3.2.3 has specific
support for PiStorm I would like to know about it. If Hyperion are stating they are supporting this board
it would be a big deal - it would be a confirmed new target platform and architecture and could pave the way
for the future. If you dont understand what "support" means in the context of target platform then dont even try to answer.

I think its a lie that nobody wants to admit, since nobody yet has been able to give me a concrete answer.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2.3 update available
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2025, 12:17:52 PM »
Whats there to support? Pistorm works like any accelerator. - No actually it does not - are you being facetious?
SBC?  - Im surprised you dont know what SBC stands for .
Forthcoming A1200 board? - Yes you are defenitely being facetious.

Now if anyone would care to answer my question as to why the media are stating that 3.2.3 has specific
support for PiStorm I would like to know about it. If Hyperion are stating they are supporting this board
it would be a big deal - it would be a confirmed new target platform and architecture and could pave the way
for the future. If you dont understand what "support" means in the context of target platform then dont even try to answer.

I think its a lie that nobody wants to admit, since nobody yet has been able to give me a concrete answer.

Not being facetious at all. Your coming across as agressive, have you asked on the Hyperion forums?

Yes, pistorm in its normal state, is exactly like any other 040 accelerator (thats how I ship them, 040 with extra ram). The other harware passthrough stuff, is just an extra bonus. Are you refering to supporting those extra features out of the box? or maybe an arm version of OS 3.2.3 (which is never going to happen).

Never heard the term SBC before, hence I asked. No need to be rude.

Again, which A1200 board you refering to. You haven't exactly stated much of anything, just vague comments.
I have not heard or read anything about specific support for pistorm. So you should be asking on their forums.

The only mention of ehancements for pistorm anywhere is here;
https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/10/amigaos_3_2_3/

Also this;

High-Color and High-Resolution:
AmigaOS 3.2.3 is designed to take full advantage of the PiStorm's ability to provide RTG graphics and support high-resolution modes through HDMI.

680x0 Processor Systems:
The update is designed to work with classic Amigas running 680x0 processors, including those equipped with PiStorm accelerator boards.

Which is odd, how would they know, if Hyperion never even mention it.
There is a release notes for every single component. You could look in there.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2.3 update available
« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2025, 01:33:29 PM »
Oh come on, your going abit to far now. Just trying to understand an issue I have never come across in the whole time I have used an Amiga since 1988.

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Re: AmigaOS 3.2.3 update available
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2025, 03:38:08 PM »
That wasn’t aimed at you Chris but our resident bored Sheldon Lee Cooper who loves to put out facts. 😉

I know, and my reply was in defence of Kolla. Come on, chill as it appears your trolling now,   :(.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2.3 update available
« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2025, 04:33:33 PM »
Now if anyone would care to answer my question as to why the media are stating that 3.2.3 has specific
support for PiStorm I would like to know about it. If Hyperion are stating they are supporting this board
it would be a big deal -

As Chris said, the PiStorm is great because it spoofs as an 040 accelerator! But isn't all this OS3.2.3 stuff irrelevant anyway as aren't we supposed to be boycotting Hyperion products until they remove the legal roadblocks to THEA1200? Come on mate, we wouldn't want to give the A1200NG an unfair head start now would we?  ;)
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2.3 update available
« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2025, 05:22:39 PM »
As Chris said, the PiStorm is great because it spoofs as an 040 accelerator! But isn't all this OS3.2.3 stuff irrelevant anyway as aren't we supposed to be boycotting Hyperion products until they remove the legal roadblocks to THEA1200? Come on mate, we wouldn't want to give the A1200NG an unfair head start now would we?  ;)

Sigh, please not another THEA1200 hijack. Why troll here and drag this off topic?
Go post on Hyperions forums.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.2.3 update available
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2025, 05:51:32 PM »
Still waiting for an answer on this . From where im sitting the various mainstream media outlets are saying that this update has support for PiStorm. Yet there is no mention of it in the release notes. This is a big deal so why is there nothing mentioned?

I read The Register article and my view is that it's just not clearly written. The line "The update targets Amigas with 680x0 processors, including systems enhanced with PiStorm accelerator boards." means it targets classic systems, not PPC-based ones. If calling out PiStorm I don't know why it doesn't also refer to Vampire cards. 🤔

This isn't the same thing as saying there are PiStorm-specific enhancements in the OS.

Original article I read is here, assuming it's the same one: https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/10/amigaos_3_2_3/
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