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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #29 from previous page: June 16, 2025, 11:12:24 PM »
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It's a shame about Worms DC! THEA500 Mini by comparison, was a very useful playtest platform using the WHDLoad version under AMiNIMiga!

What is your point ? You can of course run Worms DC on the A600GS/A1200NG, just use an original Workbench and original WHDLoad and away you go ! The A600GS is far ahead of the A500Mini, even in speed  8)
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2025, 07:18:44 AM »
Thanks for the link @SkulleateR, that does somewhat cripple the ability of some games that require hard drive writes. Is there a planned fix?

 I think @BozzerBigD's point is that this system is advertised as being able to run games from the System menu, and it can't handle one of the most popular games released for the Amiga from the launch menu.

Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping that they roll out an update that improves this and I'd like the system to do well, but it doesn't make it immune from criticism.
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2025, 09:43:15 AM »
I think @BozzerBigD's point is that this system is advertised as being able to run games from the System menu, and it can't handle one of the most popular games released for the Amiga from the launch menu.

But the A500Mini suffers from that too, ever tried to play History Line on A500Mini directly from WHDLoad LHA ? It´s not working and there are other examples. So the A500Mini needs a Hack like aMiNiMiga to play some titles and the A600GS needs a Workbench installation to play some titles ! EVERY system out there has one or another flaw ... but praising the A500Mini and bashing on A600GS (and that´s what @BozzerBigD does) is completely away from reality !
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2025, 09:43:55 AM »
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It's a shame about Worms DC! THEA500 Mini by comparison, was a very useful playtest platform using the WHDLoad version under AMiNIMiga! It is unfortunate that the AmigaKit machines are not currently a viable alternative for certain "serious" Amiga productivity uses but hey the V1.5 map submission period is closed and the Mini is not currently available (nor THEA1200), so I guess it doesn't matter now?! It's similar to the fact Calvin Harris used a RetroPassion refurbished A1200 at the Brit Awards and not an A600GS with the updated Octamed showcased to the world! Oh what could have been! If we all worked together I'm sure we could bottle Amiga lightning!

...maybe Perifractic will show us all how it's done with the old C= IP and make half the Amiga IP irrelevant overnight?! Who knows?

Im sorry, but your just trolling, period!!!.

Unfortunately, we had an agreement with Bert of WHDLoad long before Andrews came along. Seems Bert forgot that fact when making exclusive deal.
So we had to find an alternative.
Why would Kelvin Harris have a 600GS, it was done all behind closed doors. SONY contacted RetroPassion.

Wow, your going on about one game, there are loads the door stop mini cant even run due to the underpowered spectrum vega hardware it uses.
No, OP is not talking about writing an SD card that hacks system, then messing around copying millions of files and stuff to card, just to be able to do anything.
Either you stop trolling in GS threads or you will have a timeout.

EDIT:- I will say this before any one starts. I ACTUALLY OWN A MINI, PRE-ORDERED. So I can have an opinion on the both devices.
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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2025, 10:11:32 AM »
@Twiggy

One can play Worms DC from the launcher just fine, just use the ADF-version. 8)
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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2025, 05:52:27 PM »
@AmigaOldskooler - True! Is there a HDF out there that has all the bells and whistles? i.e. extra maps, editors and patches etc?
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2025, 06:04:43 PM »
@SkulleateR - Yeah, not denying both systems have their pros and cons, but to call the Mini a door stop then accuse someone else of trolling isn't constructive.

Just hoping that providing feedback on some of these minor issues will result in some fixes, which seems likely as the online updates roll out quite frequently :)
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2025, 06:59:10 PM »
Yeah, not denying both systems have their pros and cons, but to call the Mini a door stop ...

Where did I do that ? I also own (and use) the A500Mini so I can compare them very good  ???
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2025, 07:30:09 PM »
Sorry, I was musing on several comments made in one reply!
 

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« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2025, 11:43:56 PM »
@SkulleateR - Yeah, not denying both systems have their pros and cons, but to call the Mini a door stop then accuse someone else of trolling isn't constructive.

It reminds of Commodore's C64 tactics; [Bill Herd Quote]: we had a special to send in a competitors computer and get $100 rebate on a C64. We got skids of Sinclairs sent to us still new in the box as people figured they would buy a $49 Sinclair and get a $100 rebate with it.

Maybe if RGL's competitors were so confident of their products' added value then they'd offer something similar and collect all those modern Z80 "door stop" equivalents?!
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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2025, 11:49:44 PM »
It reminds of Commodore's C64 tactics; [Bill Herd Quote]: we had a special to send in a competitors computer and get $100 rebate on a C64. We got skids of Sinclairs sent to us still new in the box as people figured they would buy a $49 Sinclair and get a $100 rebate with it.

Maybe if RGL's competitors were so confident of their products' added value then they'd offer something similar and collect all those modern Z80 "door stop" equivalents?!
 ;D

Maybe you should get an A600GS/A1200NG to finally get into the conversation yourself. You cannot even objectively discuss here in any way ...
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2025, 12:11:19 AM »
I go to Amiga/retro shows. I've seen what the A600GS/A1200NG can do and what they can and can't run. It is not my life's work to be a player manager type of user/tester to get the best out of it. I've messed with the Mini's .ol files to configure and tweak games and I probably have the patience to tweak the AmigaKit machines to the point where I'd be reasonably happy. I wish Amigakit well but I would sink too much time into the A600GS and A1200NG just to replicate what I already have in my PiStorm32/THEA500 Mini/Real Classic Miggies. They aren't for me unless my real machines start to die TBH.

I don't expect to be welcome here but my opinion is still valid. I understand that not being able to share the WHDLoad license brings incompatibilities out of the box which no doubt can be overcome with an alternative Workbench install and full WHDLoad installs post-purchase.
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