Whole new meaning to the term "Canadian Bacon"

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lvgddgrl wrote:
At least now I know what makes Candian Bacon different. Now with 50% more prostitute.

Mmmmmmm...50% more prostitute.... gargle...

@lvgddgrl

Cool Avatar!!! Where did you get it from?

[T_Bone]

FluffyMcDeath wrote:

The advasntage of ONLY locking people up, and making it a rule, is that if you lock up someone who is innocent you can let them out. All the innocent people who have been killed in Texas get to stay dead.

That doesn't take the victims into account. In ANY system, the victims ALWAYS stay dead. Where's the man accused of killing the victims? in court, surrounded by bulletproof glass to protect him.

And because it is so permanent, and irreversable, the system has a high motivation for never admitting mistakes so that people can have confidence that innocents are not executed. Unfortunately this is an official fiction and not the truth.

But people don't have confidence that innocents arn't killed, that's why the man is in costody in the first place. This isn't even his first murder charge either. Dozens of people were murdered, because the court was afraid to punish this man for fear he may be innocent when they originally charged him with murder and then let him go.

The question becomes, "what propotion of innocent people are you willing to have executed to maintain the system"? If the question includes the caveat, "one of them being you", the number is probably quite low, around zero.

Why is it a question of proportions? If someone's not guilty, they shouldn't be convicted regardless of the punishment.

[Cyberus]

T_Bone wrote:

The question becomes, "what propotion of innocent people are you willing to have executed to maintain the system"? If the question includes the caveat, "one of them being you", the number is probably quite low, around zero.

Why is it a question of proportions? If someone's not guilty, they shouldn't be convicted regardless of the punishment.

But innocent people ARE convicted. There are people in the UK who have been convicted of murders and then found to be innocent on appeal - not that they shouldn't have been convicted because there was not evidence, but they were found INNOCENT.

A case in point is a man who was convicted of a murder in Bakewell in the 60s - he has a mental age of 12 or something, and the police were found to have got a confession out of him unlawfully. I'm sure that not ALL American police are above malpractice.

The difference being that here, they can be released 30 years later, their life having been ruined, but at least they are still alive to be able to complain about it, eh?

[T_Bone]

Cyberus wrote:

T_Bone wrote:

Why is it a question of proportions? If someone's not guilty, they shouldn't be convicted regardless of the punishment.

But innocent people ARE convicted. There are people in the UK who have been convicted of murders and then found to be innocent on appeal - not that they shouldn't have been convicted because there was not evidence, but they were found INNOCENT.

If they were found innocent on appeal, what's the problem? You can appeal with or without the death penalty.
 the death penalty is part of the punishment, it doesn't change the legal process.

[KennyR]

The death penalty appeals system in the US only exists to make the punishment worse. Not many people get their sentence downgraded or even dismissed using appeals. What does happen though is that they can be on Death Row for more than twenty years.

[T_Bone]

KennyR wrote:
The death penalty appeals system in the US only exists to make the punishment worse. Not many people get their sentence downgraded or even dismissed using appeals. What does happen though is that they can be on Death Row for more than twenty years.

Although in Texas they've introduced legislation that if there are more than 3 credible eyewitnesses to the murder, you get bumped to the front of the line. The rest of the country it's rare that you'd get the death penalty, but in Texas they're putting in an express lane!  :lol:

[lvgddgrl]

Umm, sir step away from the bacon.....


Re:Avatar

Did a google image search for Zombie chicks, I swear! Who knew?


 

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Anyway, this is going horribly off topic.. let get back to eating people please.

Right, time to google Zombie chicks... :-D