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Offline chrisTopic starter

Re: NetSurf 3.11 BETA for OS3
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2024, 11:45:58 PM »
Do they disappear if you toggle bitmap fonts off in Prefs? I know the bitmap fonts code is a bit buggy and sometimes breaks layouting.
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Offline Tumbleweed

Re: NetSurf 3.11 BETA for OS3
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2024, 08:08:17 AM »
Turned off Bitmap fonts ion prefs. Very visible performance hit - opening web pages slows considerably. Lots of backing store type errors and message box looking for "DEV"; Will test properly and post screen shots.

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Offline chrisTopic starter

Re: NetSurf 3.11 BETA for OS3
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2024, 10:52:39 PM »
But the layout errors have gone? So those are likely because the bitmap font implementation has bugs.
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Offline Boing-ball

Re: NetSurf 3.11 BETA for OS3
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2024, 12:52:49 AM »
When you mention Bitmaps. Are you also referring to 3rd party Bitmaps such as WarpJpeg?
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf 3.11 BETA for OS3
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2024, 10:44:43 AM »
When you mention Bitmaps. Are you also referring to 3rd party Bitmaps such as WarpJpeg?


He means bitmap fonts, nothing else I suppose.
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Offline Tumbleweed

Re: NetSurf 3.11 BETA for OS3
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2024, 03:46:17 PM »
Yep, bitmap fonts.

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Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf 3.11 BETA for OS3
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2024, 01:55:44 PM »
Disabling bitmap fonts fixes layout problems. It is very slow rendering amigaworld.net takes 136 seconds, when 6 years ago it took only 15.

Just wondering 2017 Netsurf was almost useable, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZueeEUIazNM

Why not keep last well working version available? Compile it against latest SSL?
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Offline chrisTopic starter

Re: NetSurf 3.11 BETA for OS3
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2024, 06:32:37 PM »
A lot has changed in seven years...

I couldn't even work out back then why it had slowed down so much.
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Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf 3.11 BETA for OS3
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2024, 09:04:19 PM »
Another thing, I can't open menus twice. Second time they are empty.
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Re: NetSurf 3.11 BETA for OS3
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2024, 09:19:19 PM »
The problem I have is when going to settings as soon as the pointer goes over a setting the help file for NetSurf pops up, very strange. Also I seem not to have any fonts displayed when loading a web page. Running on OS 3.2.2.1 on P96 RTG with a PiStorm32 lite / Emu68
 

Offline Boing-ball

Re: NetSurf 3.11 BETA for OS3
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2024, 02:01:11 AM »
Which version of P96 are you using? May help with the Beta testing.
 

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Re: NetSurf 3.11 BETA for OS3
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Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf 3.11 BETA for OS3
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2024, 01:41:53 PM »
The problem I have is when going to settings as soon as the pointer goes over a setting the help file for NetSurf pops up, very strange. Also I seem not to have any fonts displayed when loading a web page. Running on OS 3.2.2.1 on P96 RTG with a PiStorm32 lite / Emu68

Fonts are like that, because a bitmap fonts code is broken. You need to disable them and font are displayed again.

Menus has problems too.
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Re: NetSurf 3.11 BETA for OS3
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2024, 12:57:39 PM »
Yup, fonts show up now. But as others have remarked the screen buildup is quite slow, even on a Pistorm with SD card.
 

Offline chrisTopic starter

Re: NetSurf 3.11 BETA for OS3
« Reply #28 from previous page: January 19, 2024, 04:47:24 PM »
Fonts are like that, because a bitmap fonts code is broken. You need to disable them and font are displayed again.

Menus has problems too.

I have to say I'm not seeing either of these issues here.  AmigaOS 3.2.2.1 with whatever the free version of P96 is.

The only issue with bitmap fonts which I can't figure out how to fix currently, is that the carat displays at the end of a string when it is moved to the beginning.  There's also a bit of a weird overlap/short string issue with the menu items on the welcome page, which only seems to occur on that page.

There is an issue with outline fonts where the spacing is wrong, which I've attempted to fix and can't fathom out either. (the font/text code is cursed, and I hate changing it as it tends to break further)

I'm not sure what's going on with the menus.

Of course, patches are welcome if you have fixes.
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