Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1

[nicholas]

It was about 2 years ago in 2016.  Like I meantioned before it was for the EFIKA port...which looks like an older version of the PI 3B just from looking at specs...

That's AEROS not AROS.

A commercial distro running on top of Linux.

[Louis Dias]

That's AEROS not AROS.

A commercial distro running on top of Linux.

Yes, I corrected myself and edited my post after checking PM's...

[kreciu]

If you really want OS4.1 on your classic Amiga inside Tower, you should buy yourself A1222 (if ever!) and use a KVM switch . Way better performance and most likely it actually CAN happen "in near future".

[nicholas]

If you really want OS4.1 on your classic Amiga inside Tower, you should buy yourself A1222 (if ever!) and use a KVM switch . Way better performance and most likely it actually CAN happen "in near future".

Just two more weeks! (TM)

[Iggy]

I'm currently not doing AROS development but because of the reason you mention here. My interest has just moved to other things, like developing ASICs.

Sorry  Staf, I should not have spoken for you. As to your current interest, I can understand it.
Most of the projects I'm involved with have either CPLD or FPGA components to reduce parts count and provide glue circuitry.
It won't be long before ASIC can be created in relativity low volume affordably.

The last time I'd exchanged messages with you, you still dabbled in development.

Things change, but the AROS community lost some real talent there.

[Iggy]

I am a rabid AROS fanatic now? Wow!

You're a rabid something, I just didn't post a more exact word.

Edit - Eh, that's a childish comment in itself, fug it, let's get back to the topic at hand.

Besides, childish or not, I got to hear from my favorite (former) AROS programmer, and the conversation is for the most part interesting.

[kolla]

Running it hosted is not the same as running it on bare metal. There's always a performance hit.

Not in this case, as the file system and everything offered by the host operating system is just so insanely better crafted that what would be if running on "bare metal".

[nicholas]

Not in this case, as the file system and everything offered by the host operating system is just so insanely better crafted that what would be if running on "bare metal".

Benchmarks or it didn't happen!

[Iggy]

Not in this case, as the file system and everything offered by the host operating system is just so insanely better crafted that what would be if running on "bare metal".

I actually think you've got a valid point.
However the Linux kernel, if used in its entirety, could double the size of the operating system.

Of course it can be slimmed down quite a bit.

[wawrzon]

On the PPC idea, I suppose I could contact Staff Verhagen, if he's still developing.

im not sure if i understand you well, but if you are asking for a ppc port of aros, there is one targetting sam computers. it appears to work, there appear to be problems with keyboard (driver) though. it has only been tested under emulation (qemu) lately, which also is at experimental stage for the platform in question. so ist difficult to tell how it behaves on the hardware. so far there has not been anyone interested in testing.

if you ask for aros support for ppc accelerators, i dont think there is actually interest rewarding such an effort. not to mention that this hardware is spectacularly rare.

[Iggy]

im not sure if i understand you well, but if you are asking for a ppc port of aros, there is one targetting sam computers. it appears to work, there appear to be problems with keyboard (driver) though. it has only been tested under emulation (qemu) lately, which also is at experimental stage for the platform in question. so ist difficult to tell how it behaves on the hardware. so far there has not been anyone interested in testing.

if you ask for aros support for ppc accelerators, i dont think there is actually interest rewarding such an effort. not to mention that this hardware is spectacularly rare.

No, I don't see the point of porting to accelerators.
Broader support of other PPC platforms would be nice.
The SAM460 is a little weak.

But the idea of emulating the SAM460 via qemu still sounds cool.
What is the platform used for the emulation?

[Karlos]

Guys let's keep the tone a bit less hostile, shall we? You're actually making me moderate posts. On a phone. On public transport. This does not make me happy.

[Iggy]

duplicate post, sorry.

[Iggy]

Guys let's keep the tone a bit less hostile, shall we? You're actually making me moderate posts. On a phone. On public transport. This does not make me happy.

Sorry Karlos, I'm trying to take it down a notch. And these guys are providing me some useful information.
I've heard about running a SAM460 emu via qemu, didn't know they'd been trying to run AROS on it.
And I'm unsure why this fork is so underdeveloped.

Sure, X86/X64 offers stronger performance, but PPC provides a unified platform.

In any case, I think I've been on the receiving end more than the delivering end, and I'm willing to endure it if there's still some payback in info gained.

I don't take the :griping: back and forth that seriously.

Just two more weeks! (TM)

If they really do have a beta network driver, then they are down to what just a sound driver?
Can't that be provided via USB?

[wawrzon]

No, I don't see the point of porting to accelerators.
Broader support of other PPC platforms would be nice.
The SAM460 is a little weak.

anyone who wishes to cotribute support and testing for further ppc platforms, or whatever else platforms, is certainly welcome.

But the idea of emulating the SAM460 via qemu still sounds cool.
What is the platform used for the emulation?

im usually testing it within linux virtual machines on my PCs, simply because i compile everything there, so it is most convenient. last time i tried i had also to compile qemu myself from current source as sam platform support has not been public yet. im not sure if this changed by now.

[wawrzon]

I've heard about running a SAM460 emu via qemu, didn't know they'd been trying to run AROS on it.

apparently aros is used for testing, as it runs on that emulation most reliably, in comparison to ng alternatives. it sounds strange but i cannot comment on this, as i have not tested anything else, neither do i intend to.

And I'm unsure why this fork is so underdeveloped.

this is not a fork. ppc platform is built from common source, same as x86, x64, arm or m68k. neither is it "underpowerded". so far as ive been able to test everything worked stale, except i couldnt use keyboard for input, which certainly limits my experience. but i have not noticed any particular problems. admittedly i have not spent much time with it.