samba on an amiga

[pyrre]

Don't tell anyone, but back in the days, before NAT routers took over completely, it happened that I found remote Amiga systems of users on IRC that had netfs running and would allow sinister people like me to mount their RAM:, so I could mess with their ENV:sys/palette.prefs etc and see them complain on IRC about how their Amiga was behaving strangely. Good old times

Btw - the "true" SMB (aka NetBIOS over TCP/IP) equivalent for Amiga would be Envoy.

How do i find the files for Envoy?

Find lots of related stuff on aminet. patches and such...
but seemingly i cant find the actual files.....

[pVC]

Don't tell anyone, but back in the days, before NAT routers took over completely, it happened that I found remote Amiga systems of users on IRC that had netfs running and would allow sinister people like me to mount their RAM:, so I could mess with their ENV:sys/palette.prefs etc and see them complain on IRC about how their Amiga was behaving strangely. Good old times

Yeah, I didn't do any harm to anyone, but sometimes if someone asked for some file, I dumped it to their RAM: disk, and told to check there Had to explain two times after that.

But this new version is password protected, and permissions are given in other way, so it's more safe now, and not open by default And of course most people are behind NAT too.

How do i find the files for Envoy?

Find lots of related stuff on aminet. patches and such...
but seemingly i cant find the actual files.....

It's a commercial product... I don't remember if it's been given away for free at any point, maybe still under copyrights. And it has some problems with NG systems.

[bomrat]

hi, im fighting eznet setup issues.

my setup is 192.168.0.100
gw is 192.168.0.1
nameserver is 192.168.0.1
nameserver is 4.4.4.4
nameserver is 8.8.8.8

trying to ping 4.4.4.4 cannot
i can ping 8.8.8.8, and 192.168.0.1
cannot ping from my linux server back to the amiga

wierd stuff going on
please help

[pVC]

nameserver is 4.4.4.4

trying to ping 4.4.4.4 cannot

Are you sure this is what should work for you? Google's name servers are 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, and this 4.4.4.4 is something else or some ISP specific server.

[nicholas]

Use this DNS https://1.1.1.1/

[LoadWB]

Are you sure this is what should work for you? Google's name servers are 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, and this 4.4.4.4 is something else or some ISP specific server.

4.4.4.4 used to be MCI WorldCom's public DNS server.  After it changed hands numerous times it still remained active but a quick query of it today shows it as dead.  The IP is now owned by Level3.

[blakespot]

I'm sorry. Every time I see the title of this thread on the front page I just picture this.



:-)


bp

[scuzzb494]

I set up my Samba back in the early 2000s so I kinda just take it for granted now. Took a while and had a lot of help from the Samba group on Yahoo. I had problems with some of the Windows machines with passwords but broke the back of it. I always have to run my own NMBD script to get the thing going and all my shares with other PC's are actioned by clicking icons I created on the Workbench.

These are my notes I made last year to refresh me where all the things are kept and what links I used just in case it all ever fell over. Like I say my notes on my system.

Most PCs work, I have Win95,98 and XP connected.

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblog_september17/scuzzblogdseptember17_1501.htm

[pyrre]

I set up my Samba back in the early 2000s so I kinda just take it for granted now. Took a while and had a lot of help from the Samba group on Yahoo. I had problems with some of the Windows machines with passwords but broke the back of it. I always have to run my own NMBD script to get the thing going and all my shares with other PC's are actioned by clicking icons I created on the Workbench.

These are my notes I made last year to refresh me where all the things are kept and what links I used just in case it all ever fell over. Like I say my notes on my system.

Most PCs work, I have Win95,98 and XP connected.

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblog_september17/scuzzblogdseptember17_1501.htm

I have no problems running samba on my pcs. i have a couple of linux servers that run SMB files haring. and it works like a charm.
I have bad experience running samba on amiga. and worse experience in the actual file sharing. all files moved over smb protocol needs to be packed to maintain amiga file formating.
But i am going to experiment with my mac mini, morphOS and NetFS
setting up the mac mini as a fileserver. looking into setting it up with larger disks... and so on.

[Motormouth]

A useful Samba on amiga guide:

https://sambaforamigaos.wordpress.com/

I used this years ago to set up samba.  It is nice to see that it has been updated over the years

[scuzzb494]

I have no problems running samba on my pcs. i have a couple of linux servers that run SMB files haring. and it works like a charm.
I have bad experience running samba on amiga. and worse experience in the actual file sharing. all files moved over smb protocol needs to be packed to maintain amiga file formating.
But i am going to experiment with my mac mini, morphOS and NetFS
setting up the mac mini as a fileserver. looking into setting it up with larger disks... and so on.

Probably misunderstood the issue, my bad, but I don't get that problem.

Anyway good luck. I used the Samba Yahoo Group when I was needing help. The archive is all still up.

Just an extra note... I've been on the 1200 all night and hooked into a Windows machine and reading all the guides that came with Samba and how to write the config file and so on,  and what not to do. Would be useful posting your SMB so that we could have a look at how you have things set up. Struggling to see why you are having the issues. I'm currently backing up my Samba drive onto the Windows machine. Earlier I was playing a number of Amiga animations that I have created and loaded via the network that are stored on the PC using DOpus on the Amiga. In truth I've had very few issues with the network and the Amiga. Mostly I get issues with a dodgy SCSI that I use, but I can put up with that.

When I first set up the network I got great help from the Samba group and there did use to be a very good guide that has sadly gone now, but I still have a copy of all the pages. I do recall there being a real stumbling block with the set up until one last post gave me the answer. Difficult for me to unthread that without going through all the group posts. I do recall passwords being an issue for a while.

Anyway have fun.

[kolla]

I'm sorry. Every time I see the title of this thread on the front page I just picture this.

Hahaha :laughing:

On a serious note - NetFS was just released with a new version http://aminet.net/package/comm/net/NetFS-revised - I wonder how portable the netfs-server code is, would be great to have NetFS shares on Linux/BSD (and even Windows).

[pyrre]

Hahaha :laughing:

On a serious note - NetFS was just released with a new version http://aminet.net/package/comm/net/NetFS-revised - I wonder how portable the netfs-server code is, would be great to have NetFS shares on Linux/BSD (and even Windows).

Yea... sure would... but how are you going to store files on disks under windows ore linux, AND maintain amiga proprietary file formats under such conditions?
If you have a reasonable solution for that, please let me know. I really wonder.....

[kolla]

Yea... sure would... but how are you going to store files on disks under windows ore linux, AND maintain amiga proprietary file formats under such conditions?
If you have a reasonable solution for that, please let me know. I really wonder.....

Why not use the same method as UAE (I presume WinUAE and FS-UAE alike, thought I only have experience with the latter) - a metafile amigafile.uaem that contains the Amiga specific filesystem flags. Or what do you mean by "proprietary file formats" in this context?

[pyrre]

Why not use the same method as UAE (I presume WinUAE and FS-UAE alike, thought I only have experience with the latter) - a metafile amigafile.uaem that contains the Amiga specific filesystem flags. Or what do you mean by "proprietary file formats" in this context?

I dont know any solutions to use uae, other than setting up a computer and run it as a server. Im guessing that the netfs will work under uae setup.
but using pc for storing amiga files is a bad thing.
I ran my first UAE setup by only using folders on the host for file storing. thereby overcoming the making of hardfiles.
However... after a while files started to go missing. icons did not work...
plus plus....
posted about it here in 2006 and was immediately encouraged to make hardfiles to maintain file integrity and formating under amiga.

What is meant with file formating.... you have to ask someone who know that better than me.

I am guessing it has to do with read/write, hidden and such "flags"....

[kolla]

I ran my first UAE setup by only using folders on the host for file storing. thereby overcoming the making of hardfiles.
However... after a while files started to go missing. icons did not work...
plus plus....
posted about it here in 2006 and was immediately encouraged to make hardfiles to maintain file integrity and formating under amiga.

What is meant with file formating.... you have to ask someone who know that better than me.

I am guessing it has to do with read/write, hidden and such "flags"....

Yeah, all those are long time solved problems. Oh, and there is no "hidden" flag, that's not what that H flag is for