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Offline arongoochTopic starter

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WHDLoad running under Kickstart 1.3
« on: September 06, 2017, 06:13:34 AM »
Hi all, im prepared to take a bit of flak for this one, but...

I know WHDLoad cannot run on the older Kickstart 1.3 and needs 2.0 or above but what is the particular reason a version of WHDLoad cannot run on 1.3 systems? I assume it's using libraries or something that only +2.0 can provide but couldn't there possibly be a way to make a version that runs on 1.3 systems?

Im sure there would be many people out there that would want WHDLoad to run on their older 1.3 machines mainly for nostalgia reasons as with most things Amiga I guess.

Just putting it out there anyway :)
 

Offline Matt_H

Re: WHDLoad running under Kickstart 1.3
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2017, 05:11:18 PM »
Given the time/motivation, I'm sure the developers could adapt it to work on 1.3. But remember that WHDLoad's whole reason for being is to get games that don't work on expanded, 2.0+ systems to do so. I strongly suspect the original design logic years ago was that WHDLoad wouldn't be necessary for a 1.3 system.

I could be wrong. Browse through the older WHDLoad releases - maybe some of the really, really old ones do work under 1.3. But you'll need older versions of each individual slave to be compatible with an older WHDLoad, which means a smaller and buggier selection of installs. Many of the current installs didn't exist before v14.
 

Offline zipper

Re: WHDLoad running under Kickstart 1.3
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2017, 06:01:52 PM »
Or try http://aminet.net/game/patch/jst.lha , it's WHDLoad slave compatible nowadays. At least tested with A500/68000/2Megs  says Jeff.
Ok, http://jotd.pagesperso-orange.fr/misc/JST_V5.0_beta_rc6_with_source.zip  "Runs JST & WHDload slaves, Kickstart 1.3 compatible."
« Last Edit: September 06, 2017, 06:04:56 PM by zipper »
 

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Re: WHDLoad running under Kickstart 1.3
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2017, 02:09:08 AM »
I definitely get that with WHDLoads intention but I think it also works so well not having to mess about with anything floppy drive related and seems to be quicker load times in most situations than loading from floppy or emulated floppy drive.

Many thanks Zipper for the link to Jst, from testing I can see Jst having huge potential! Been playing around with it for an afternoon and had mixed results. Around 50% of WHDLoad games I tried with it worked surprisingly well. I wish this would be further developed as it's super cool loading WHDLoad games from 1.3.

With 2MB Chip and 8MB Fast RAM & WB1.3, games like AnotherWorld, Paradroid 90, Swiv, Rick Dangerous etc come up with errors like unsupported slave and insufficient memory etc. I did get games like Lemmings, Arkanoid, Alienbreed, Micromachines, Exile, Stunt Car Racer and Puzznic for example to work perfectly though.

Unfortunately if Jst runs into an error or any time I quit a game which seems to use the same quit shortcut key as WHDLoad use, I get a guru crash every single time and have to restart the machine. If Jst had more work done to it, it could probably work really well on 1.3 machines.
 

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Re: WHDLoad running under Kickstart 1.3
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2017, 08:47:31 AM »
Use the latest version of JST http://jotd.pagesperso-orange.fr/amiga.html