I bloody well knew it - Brian Bagnell wants yet more time and more money

[kolla]

I want my money back WITH INTEREST!!  Enough BS.
 
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That's not how the world works. When you back a project, you are well aware that you risk losing that money.

[psxphill]

Reduce the spacing in between the lines and/or reduce the font size.  He could also do a search on "that", "which" and remove them as they are often not required.  He could also reduce the number of pages required by replacing Commodore with just the chicken head symbol and instead of writing Amiga it could be shortened to Miga, even.

Problem solved. He found http://transl8it.com/

"Hello! Im Brian Bagnall & I wnt 2 teL U d story of Commodore durN d Amiga years. Commodore produced my favorite computers n d eighties & 4 years I waited 4 SOME1 2 wrte a buk bout thOs NcreDbL tImz. Strangely, it seemed lIk publishers wer only intRStd n talkin bout Apple, Microsoft & IBM. Its tym 2 GIV d Commodore Amiga som crdz az d 1st commercially sucSful multimedia cmptr.

tAk a journey frm Amiga's beginnings n 1982 2 wen Commodore filed 4 bankruptcy n 1994. Dozens of brilliant & motivated engineers produced a cmptr w graphics, swNd & multitasking capabilities years ahed of apL & IBM. A lot hapnd n dat decade, & DIS buk wiL descriB 2 U d most relevant parts n a definitive history of d Amiga story & Commodores fInL descent.

Prior 2 undertaking DIS project, Commodores trajectory az a co. wz a huge mystery. writiN DIS buk wiL aLow me 2 sleuth out wot happened, relive thOs tImz alongside thOs hu wer there, & share d rslts w fellow travelers lIk U. dat prospect aloN iz incredibly XcitN."

Firstly, from the fact  that Jack Tramiel headed up the Atari ST development after being kicked  out of C=.

Jack resigned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfJzMAyDh_I&feature=youtu.be&t=3382
https://youtu.be/zfJzMAyDh_I?t=4044.

[LoadWB]

I dig it: "C=: Ami yrs txt Ed." and it could be sent to us via SMS.

[BozzerBigD]

@Pentad

Atari fans might like a book about Atari home computers but the reality is they are dull compared to the GAMES Atari produced. Atari and the iconic logo are remenbered because of the coin ups and the games produced. 4-player Gauntlet 2 cabinets etc. Commodore hardly produced any worthwhile software apart from Workbench and DiskSalv! That is the reality. Nolan Bushnell lived and breathed GAMES and that's what should be remembered.

[Arnuph1s]

I watched that Atari Game Over documentary about the desert dig for the cartridges and there was a segment at the start about Atari that was pretty interesting. It sounded like a non-stop drink/drug party so a book regarding the experiences of people working there might actually be pretty entertaining.

[LoadWB]

It sounded like a non-stop drink/drug party so a book regarding the experiences of people working there might actually be pretty entertaining.

Except that everything everyone will remember is a blur, or just blacked out  I've seen those movies.

[BozzerBigD]

@Thread

The final decision is...

...the book is being split! Let's all wish Brian the best as he completes these two books and around 1000 pages of Amiga history!

[BuBBoB]

What a croc of excrement! I get half the book I paid for years later than promised. I paid for the Commodore The Amiga years not from year x to year y.

Bagnal is a flacid penis.

Re-edited for profanity and threatening lanquage.

[Iggy]

Jesus don't mention Atari to Bagnell, he will extend the book to include that bloody story too....

In a way, Atari and the ST are involved.
Considering who pushed Atari to develop the ST, and who was behind the development of the Lorraine chipset (and where he came from).

Its a weird, convoluted part of the evolution of the platform (and 68K machines in general).

And, IF we wanted to thoroughly throw Brian off track, we could mention the Australian OS-9 port, alternative 68K systems (outside of the Mac), etc... :roflmao:

[BozzerBigD]

@BuBBoB

So ask for your money back and buy 'Amiga: The Future was Here' instead! Sheesh it's just a book it's not as if you lost £1000 investing in Amiga Inc. or something ;-)

[eliyahu]

@thread

guys -- i know many of you are disappointed and upset over the never-ending saga of this book, but please remember your language use. and we can't have any posts that suggest a physical threat, no matter how slight. just a heads up.

-- eliyahu

[LoadWB]

Zack needed a little help finishing up his documentary.  Has anyone contacted Bagnall to offer some assistance?

[BozzerBigD]

He's asked the backers for help with the proof reading and to spot any instances of repetition but the hard editing decisions are his to make. I can't see how that can be sped up. He's got 99% of the content nailed down I think it just needs to fit into two books, have the correct layout and make sure it reads right i.e. the right emphasis and the best stories.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Zack needed a little help finishing up his documentary.  Has anyone contacted Bagnall to offer some assistance?

Omg.  I died.  :laughing::laughing:

[psxphill]

Atari was an important part of the personal computer revolution (just as Commodore was) but both have been largely ignored by the main stream press. These companies put a lot of computers in the hands of people who went on to help define technology today. Telling their story is important for not just the history of the personal computer but for people.

Atari were too big and corporate & not really "rockstar" types. Bil Herd and Dave Haynie are responsible for most of the commodore stories. If you are a reporter, you'll go after the people who are easy to find and want to talk.

It was only really at the Amiga 30th anniversary when people and hardware came out of the woodwork. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXKcMFoRsN4, more and more people coming forward is a huge problem for Brian.

Apple have done ok https://www.folklore.org/, but I'm sure there are plenty of other stories from there.

[BozzerBigD]

@LoadWB & Oldsmobile_Mike

Hilarious! And yet it's not really a comparison as Brian Bagnall has already delivered good books and is a reputable author. Viva Amiga is a delayed documentary of questionable quality compared to Bedrooms to Billions: The Amiga Years produced by Zach Weddington!! Who is Zach Weddington you ask?

Ref: http://www.generationamiga.com/2016/12/28/interview-with-zach-weddington/

Zach Weddington has a well-established background as a professional video maker. VIVA Amiga is his first documentary film...

There lies the problem.... he was an unproven documentary creator. Brian is a proven author who can deliver a quality product.