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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Is there something wrong with my Workbench 45.3?
« Reply #14 from previous page: February 06, 2017, 07:15:21 PM »
Quote from: Foebane;821666
SUCCESS!

Finally managed to install Picasso96 drivers and get WinUAE to work with them, all on my tod!

I've included a picture of my playing around with a 24-bit Amiga display, and I'm quite impressed by the speed, amongst other things! And finally, the Palette Preferences are finally working as they should! The Amiga is truly unfettered when it comes to 24-bit colour, and it's just a shame Commodore never finished a full 24-bit chipset, not one that was sold commercially, anyway. Yes, the Video Toaster (I think) is 24-bit, but not many home users got a chance to play with it. I'm just glad that the option of True Colour Workbench is open to us, via WinUAE. It's been fun!

LOL.  Where Commodore screwed up, many third party companies were able to shine.  But it sure would have been nice if they'd stopped faffing around long enough to include native 24-bit graphics displays in the system.  Alas, AAA!  :(

FYI, if you don't have it already the latest version of Picasso96 can be downloaded here:  http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/Picasso96.htm

Also FYI, the Video Toaster was a good many things, but it didn't provide a 24-bit Workbench.  For that you'd need one of the various graphics cards available at the time (or one of the newly designed homebrew ones).  Cheers, glad you got it working! :)
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Offline Pat the Cat

Re: Is there something wrong with my Workbench 45.3?
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2017, 07:27:49 PM »
Oh, CBM did a card with a 24 bit pallette. A2410. Timex 34010 squirting  data around a framebuffer nailed onto some 24 big DACs. It was usually  supplied with a Unix Amiga, and was often called Tiga ECS. It only  really displayed 256 colours+3, but it was a definite improvement if you  had a "fast" processsor at the time.

http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/a2410

It  cost quite a lot, and the refresh was a bit poor by the standards of  Zorro RTC cards today. It does have CyberGraphX support. The new one Mike linked to is  much more handsome. Spartan Vs old school Timex - no contest.
"To recurse is human. To iterate, divine."

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Re: Is there something wrong with my Workbench 45.3?
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2017, 07:41:40 PM »
I stand corrected, Pat!
 

Offline Pat the Cat

Re: Is there something wrong with my Workbench 45.3?
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2017, 07:51:20 PM »
No, not really. It was pushed out the door with Amix equipped Amigas. It didn't support AmigaDOS much, certainly when first "available".

Pay $4,000 for a 256 graphics card. Free A3000 included, together with something that is Unix, but we can't sell it as Unix...

... Not much of a business exercise really. :)
"To recurse is human. To iterate, divine."

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A500, Vanilla, A570, Rev 5, KS 1.2/1.3 Testbench system
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Offline paul1981

Re: Is there something wrong with my Workbench 45.3?
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2017, 07:56:46 PM »
Quote from: Pat the Cat;821676
No, not really. It was pushed out the door with Amix equipped Amigas. It didn't support AmigaDOS much, certainly when first "available".

Pay $4,000 for a 256 graphics card. Free A3000 included, together with something that is Unix, but we can't sell it as Unix...

... Not much of a business exercise really. :)


It worked for Apple. Build it, and they will come (with wods of cash).
 

Offline Pat the Cat

Re: Is there something wrong with my Workbench 45.3?
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2017, 12:24:32 AM »
Quote from: paul1981;821677
It worked for Apple. Build it, and they will come (with wods of cash).

I think that was more of the Nxt than Apple at the time. Certainly the genuine "wod holders" went that way, and gave some to Mr Jobs and friends.

It was a kind of elephant in the room, this thing called Unix, a mainframe operating system... on a desktop. NxtCube was clearly something different, and the 3000UX - looked like a Commodore PC.

The other elephant in the room was Unix's "owner" at the time, AT&T, who'd been told to start getting more of their projects into the domestic sector (people like Commodore, Apple and Next). Or else get further split up and broken apart as an unfair monopoly. It is surely no coincidence that the Targa Truevision series of graphics cards started with AT&T people. They were like an ogre who'd been told to share some sweeties with the little players who made cool toys. They did that, learned an awful lot, and then made their own even nicer toys...

One example of how hopeless CBM were at investing for potential return - the A2410 started as a student project more than any serious development to make a genuine application friendly device. Likewise, software support for it - all end user based, almost no input from CBM at all. It was built around Unix and X mostly. Now it has RTG support.
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Offline kolla

Re: Is there something wrong with my Workbench 45.3?
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2017, 08:45:23 AM »
You have 24bit palette with AGA too.
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A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
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