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Offline Rob

Laser upgrade for Amiga mice.
« on: February 04, 2017, 12:39:11 AM »
Amiga Store EU are advertising a replacement PCB for Amiga mice that upgrades them to laser mice.

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There will be boards for both the tank style mouse and the later A1200 mouse.  It's a drop in replacement for the standard PCB with no soldering required.  It also has a lens cover that goes in place of the original plate used for retaining the ball.

The sensor used is the same found in high end devices and offers a resolution of 8500dpi.

Availability is expected on the 22nd of March.

No price is currently mentioned.
 

Offline LoadWB

Re: Laser upgrade for Amiga mice.
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2017, 06:48:29 AM »
Neat!
 

Online Thomas Richter

Re: Laser upgrade for Amiga mice.
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2017, 11:10:36 AM »
Quote from: Rob;821486
Amiga Store EU are advertising a replacement PCB for Amiga mice that upgrades them to laser mice.

Some older optical PS/2 mice can be converted into Amiga mice with a bit of soldering. Thus, if you still have an old Logitech mouse, it might be worth a try. This conversion only works if the sensor chip in the mouse is able to generate quadrature impulses, as read by the Amiga. Most modern USB mice use a "all in one" chip design that interfaces directly to USB, but older models have a separate sensor chip.

Concerning the optical resolution: I would be a bit careful with a resolution as high as advertized. The problem is that the mouse counters in the Amiga are only eight bit wide, meaning that already a fraction of an inch is sufficient to overrun the counters, and to make the mouse pointer "jump" on the screen. Mouse counters are only monitored each VBI, i.e. every 50th (or 60th) of a second. The mouse travels more than a critical distance, the counter overruns. The better the resolution, the shorter the critical distance, the higher the risk of an overrun.
 

Offline spudje

Re: Laser upgrade for Amiga mice.
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2017, 12:24:58 PM »
Will this get enough power via the db9 or does it need an additional battery?
 

Offline Acill

Re: Laser upgrade for Amiga mice.
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2017, 02:52:20 PM »
The laser mice that Amigakit sells are hard to beat. If the prince isnt lower than those I wouldnt see the point. I have a few of them and have to say the quality is amazing at 1000 DPI.

It would be nice to have an original looking mouse with the insides of a modern one though.

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Re: Laser upgrade for Amiga mice.
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2017, 05:38:54 PM »
@Acill

Those amigakit mice won't work on an actual Amiga without an adaptor
They manage to outdo the tank mouse in the ugly department without being retro

Plenty of better USB or PS/2 -mice to be had at that price.
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Re: Laser upgrade for Amiga mice.
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2017, 06:26:52 PM »
@Kronos

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Those amigakit mice won't work on an actual Amiga without an adaptor

Let me clarify that the Classic Boing Ball mouse will work on a Classic Amiga without any adapter.  They are 1000 dpi and feature laser technology- they simply plug into your A500, A1200, A2000, A3000 or A4000 and you can start using straight away.  No drivers or adapters needed.

There is also some great software to download for to configure extra buttons and scrollwheel that they have.
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Re: Laser upgrade for Amiga mice.
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2017, 06:46:31 PM »
Well Acill did link to the normal PS/2+USB version of that mouse, not one with the adaptor intregrated into an DB9-plug.

Still ugly as hell ;)
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Offline Rob

Re: Laser upgrade for Amiga mice.
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2017, 08:40:58 PM »
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The laser mice that Amigakit sells are hard to beat. If the prince isnt lower than those I wouldnt see the point. I have a few of them and have to say the quality is amazing at 1000 DPI.

It would be nice to have an original looking mouse with the insides of a modern one though.

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1004


I think that even if it's more there'll still be plenty of poeple interested because they're fond of their old mouse and want to keep that period look.
 

Offline F1Lupo

Re: Laser upgrade for Amiga mice.
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2017, 08:45:40 PM »
@ Rob

cool for those that want to gut out an original mouse. I got a small extension from a dude off Amibay years ago that allows you to use any standard USB mouse on classics and it works great (only downside is you can't use the scroll wheel)
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Offline Akiko

Re: Laser upgrade for Amiga mice.
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2017, 08:51:35 PM »
I really like the A-EON mouse, hopefully they get some more in black for when the new kickstarter cases and keys come out.
 

Offline kolla

Re: Laser upgrade for Amiga mice.
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2017, 08:49:02 AM »
This is a very neat concept indeed. I am not a fan of clunky adapters :)
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Online Thomas Richter

Re: Laser upgrade for Amiga mice.
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2017, 02:45:29 PM »
Quote from: kolla;821706
This is a very neat concept indeed. I am not a fan of clunky adapters :)

Actually, I like my converted Logitech mouse. No adapter, just a bit of soldering required. Plus, it's much more ergonomic than the tank style mouse.
 

Offline darksun9210

Re: Laser upgrade for Amiga mice.
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2017, 07:32:53 AM »
wow! awesome! now i just got to find all my mice and figure how many of what i need.
i've somehow managed to lose all but one of my amiga-ps2 adapters! grrrr

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Offline Rob

Re: Laser upgrade for Amiga mice.
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2017, 08:13:10 AM »
Quote from: kolla;821706
This is a very neat concept indeed. I am not a fan of clunky adapters :)


I had one of the shorter A1200 motherboards, the ones with the mouse port on a flylead, in my A1200 tower when I got a Punchinello.  So I took the plastic shell off, connected it internally and bolted it up where the standard port would usually be.