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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard)
« Reply #479 from previous page: February 18, 2017, 10:05:57 AM »
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** WOW !!! ***  Many of my 3.5" Floppy GAMES I thought the were AGE-CORRUMPTED are now working :)

When I was going thru my box of Original GAME disks, many of them were not working (INSTANTLY CRASHED the Amiga)

I was considering Formatting them to use as empty disks!!
(since I thought they were bad)
Glad I left them alone.  They are working with the KICKSTART 1.2 (I recently read that some games won't work on higher kickstart ROM).  I have a bunch.

Super Cool, my Game Collection has just doubled.

Will be able to load up that GOTEK with some (Rare Games) if some of they are not available for Download.

I suppose that trackdisk.device (and DiskHandler resource?) has (have?) been changed and heavy patched during AmigaOS evolution.
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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard)
« Reply #480 on: February 18, 2017, 12:29:59 PM »
FYI - Someone is building & selling your XT CF ISA card on another Amiga forum.  Probably a good place to ask questions about it if you need to in the future.

http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?81846-Fully-assembled-XT-IDE-CF-adapter!-Taking-orders!
 

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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard) - Part II
« Reply #481 on: February 18, 2017, 02:12:37 PM »
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My A2000 with Kickstart 3.1 rom and Workbench 3.9 works fine with it's Bridgeboard.


This is not helpfull. :( You must have at least 68020 cpu. How have you setupped your bridgeboard software?

I have :

1. A2000 with 68030, ks 3.1 and Commodore 8088 bridgeboard (lattest bios)

Works, but time to time it just disappears. Couldn't setup up hard disk partition for it. File hard disk works just fine.

2. A500 with 68000, GVP Impact series II scsi with SCSI2SD,  ks 3.1 and KCS Power PC board v2.

SetupHD program doesn't found any partitions, tried with 64mb, 512mb and 2gb sd cards.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard)
« Reply #482 on: February 18, 2017, 03:41:14 PM »
Wasnt Kickstart 2.04 the highest available at the time for a A2000 back in the day ?
« Last Edit: February 18, 2017, 03:50:47 PM by darkage »
 

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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard)
« Reply #483 on: February 18, 2017, 05:53:39 PM »
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I am starting wondering if your 8088 BIOS that it is so antiquated is afflicted by Year2000 bug so it sometimes causes conflicts when loading filesystem, or MBR.

I still own a 486DX2 clocked at 66MHZ and I never experienced problems of BIOS as it is enough modern it stores infos with correct MMDDYYYY format system, but I encountered problems with ancient computers storing date in MMDDYY format.

Can't be Y2K anything.
I haven't put the Coin battery into Amiga Yet, it's running 199x time.
And same problem with 486.

I'm going to try this (C: drive RLL) (D: drive ISA-IDE-Adapter IDE Maxtor Drive) in the AMIGA.

Basically, I block the C: drive channel using the RLL Drive, to make the ISA-IDE adapter work as a D: drive.  

(this works on the 486 as shown below)



If that works in AMIGA.  Then I have a HARD drive in my Amiga 8088 PC.  
GOOD enough if stable.

Stilll need a 5.25" Floppy to boot (my biggest drawback).

Can the GOTEK be a 5.25" Floppy with correct Firmware and jumpers?

If I can get that working with a D: Hard drive, I'm set (Gotek A: drive on 8088 (D: drive Has two partitions, DOS, Amiga)
 

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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard)
« Reply #484 on: February 18, 2017, 06:47:54 PM »
TIME TO install the GOTEK (in Amiga)

To make my life easier to get all Fresh copies of Workbench, BB, etc

I'm going to Install the GOTEK. (to be my DF0: DF2:, and I'll be able to use my A1010 External drive as DF3:) Correct?

Did I get this right from my reading? (The GOTEK will read .dms files)

All the stuff on Amiga.resource.cx is downloadable in (.dms) format.

Instead of downloading and converting to .ADF, can I just put the .dms file on the USB stick?

My Window98 PC has all kinds of Software I downloaded couple years ago.
-Amiga Explorer
-ADFOpus
-ADFread


I forgot how to use this stuff.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2017, 06:52:37 PM by wbrejnia »
 

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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard)
« Reply #485 on: February 18, 2017, 07:11:00 PM »
WOW, the GOTEK setup was Easy (less than 10 minutes of effort from Start to finish).

-Just ribbon cabled it to where Floppy was
-Put int USB with ADF Selector (Selector booted and worked.  No files)
-Copied a few ADF files on to USB
-Booted again to Selector
-Picked an ADF file (Save and Restart)
-Amiga Booted (Gotek LED showed "001")
-Game booted.

Wish everything else was this easy.

Now how to get the (DMS files over) is next.
 

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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard)
« Reply #486 on: February 19, 2017, 02:49:11 AM »
No updates on testing yet.  
Really busy setting up everything for a clean start, having all the tools I need to stop the fumbling.

Put aside the RLL Drive and ISA-IDE-Adapter (Separate future effort & my go into DOS/DISK forums to solve this on 486)
Also will wait for IDE-USB Adpater to arrive to see if that works on 8088 Amiga PC/486. (mini-Converter-cable arrived)

Just working with the Bridgeboard and 5.25" Floppy.

At this point got myself setup with (Clean/Reliable Floppies) AND:

1) Win95-PC with Internet (for downloading)
2) Amiga Explorer on Win95-PC

3) ADFopus FileManager on Win95-PC
3a) re-Learned how Explore and convert/view/extract (.dms) to (.adf)
3b) Learned how to make EMPTY (.adf) Images.
3b) Learned how to Copy Amiga Floppies to (.adf) file on PC.

4) Downloaded and prepared Clean:
4a) AmigaJanus Disk
4b) PC-Install Disk
4c) Bridgeboard DOS programs/utiltites
4d) Workbench 1.2
4e) Workbench 1.3
4f) Workbench 3.1 (Complete Set of disks)
4f) Workbench tools (Notepad, More, DiskSalv, SysInfo, etc)

5) Understood Benefits/Usage/Features of GOTEK (and drawbacks)
5a) Got some stuff loaded on Gotek USB for mix of tools (AExplorer, WB1.2, WB1.3, SysInfo, DiskCopy, etc)

6) Experimented with WinUae
6a) Extracted my Amiga2000 Kickstart 1.2 ROM

7) Looked into HxC Gotek for DOS Floppy Emulation (5.25" 640k, etc) for 8088 Bridgeboard.

Ready to start the clean from scratch build and testing.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2017, 03:32:14 AM by wbrejnia »
 

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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard) - Part II
« Reply #487 on: February 19, 2017, 10:49:30 AM »
Quote from: utri007;822383
This is not helpfull. :( You must have at least 68020 cpu. How have you setupped your bridgeboard software?

I have :

1. A2000 with 68030, ks 3.1 and Commodore 8088 bridgeboard (lattest bios)

Works, but time to time it just disappears. Couldn't setup up hard disk partition for it. File hard disk works just fine.


Have you tried disabling 68030 at boot menu and run Bridgeboard software only with 68000 standard CPU?

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No updates on testing yet.  
Really busy setting up everything for a clean start, having all the tools I need to stop the fumbling.

At this point got myself setup with (Clean/Reliable Floppies) AND:

1) Win95-PC with Internet (for downloading)


I hope Win95 is being protected behind reliable Firewall and modern Antivirus still supporting that ancient version OS! O_O
« Last Edit: February 19, 2017, 10:55:04 AM by Raffaele »
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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard) - Part II
« Reply #488 on: February 19, 2017, 11:06:03 AM »
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Have you tried disabling 68030 at boot menu and run Bridgeboard software only with 68000 standard CPU?
I hope Win95 is being protected behind reliable Firewall and modern Antivirus still supporting that ancient version OS! O_O
Not sure what you mean 68030 vs 68000.  How do I that.

Yes I have a firewall, actually two Firewalls, but why would I worry about that OLD OS.  I'm trying to get DOS6.2 working :) !  But I guess it is safer with no network.
 

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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard)
« Reply #489 on: February 19, 2017, 12:07:47 PM »
A picture is worth a thousand words!  I proved my Bridgeboard is good.



The E-book will be on sale next week :)



Time for some Well Deserved Rest, till the IDE-Flash-Card- Adapter arrives.

WallyB
 

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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard)
« Reply #490 on: February 19, 2017, 12:56:30 PM »
think your missing some machines from your picture..

just need a a500, a600, a1000, a1200, a3000, a4000  :)
 

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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard) - Part II
« Reply #491 on: February 19, 2017, 08:40:56 PM »
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Not sure what you mean 68030 vs 68000.  How do I that.

Yes I have a firewall, actually two Firewalls, but why would I worry about that OLD OS.  I'm trying to get DOS6.2 working :) !  But I guess it is safer with no network.

You said your A2000 is equipped with 68030 and Kickstart 3.1.

Try if Bridgeboard hangs up at loading PC MBR when running on 68030.

Kickstart 3.1 Boot Menu has feature to disable mounted Cards 8and also 68030)

So you could test if Bridgeboard works better with standard 68000 present on your machine.
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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard) - Part II
« Reply #492 on: February 20, 2017, 12:42:00 AM »
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You said your A2000 is equipped with 68030 and Kickstart 3.1.

Try if Bridgeboard hangs up at loading PC MBR when running on 68030.



Looking at the first page of this thread, sysinfo says 68k and picture inside case I dont see a accelerator..    OP was talking not too long ago about the topic of accelerators but I dont think he has one..  just a standard 68k.
 

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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard) - Part II
« Reply #493 on: February 20, 2017, 01:30:48 PM »
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Looking at the first page of this thread, sysinfo says 68k and picture inside case I dont see a accelerator..    OP was talking not too long ago about the topic of accelerators but I dont think he has one..  just a standard 68k.


Whoops! I answered to utri007 and Wbrejnia at the same time, believing also Utri has problems. Wbrejnia answrered me and I assumed he was Utri, so I answered him trying disabling 68030... ^_^
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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard)
« Reply #494 on: February 20, 2017, 06:56:07 PM »
QUICK UPDATE:

- I played with Low Level Formatting (Dynamic Parameters) on RLL Hard drive based on some reading, and it appears the RLL Drive is stable (MBR is picking up on Every boot so far :) )
- Still doesn't boot C: drive (could be other underlying reasons)  Autoboot??
- I don't trust things quite enough to start loading up software.

- I also played with the (Amiga df2: )HARD file setup that I have working to boot the BB-8088-PC
- Found out that plugging in Western Digital Controller doesn't change things. (still boots)
- BUT as soon as RLL drive is plugged into Controller (Active or NO-Active Partition) the AutoBoot disables on the Amiga (thus Hard File Booting stops working)

- I played with Aread/Awrite & Jlink (not working) but I am using old downloaded versions (Downloaded most current version and will try)

- I have a chance to see if the Bridgeboard PC will boot via the Lo-Tech ISA/IDE-Compact-Flasg-Adapter.
- The IDE to SD Card arrived today
   ---> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/231881879210?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
- The IDE connector converter (Large-to-Small) arrived today
   ---> https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA66K2043381&cm_re=StarTech_BRACKET25_Adapter_Kit_to_Mount_2.5%22_HDD_in_3.5%22_Drive_Bay-_-11-993-005-_-Product
« Last Edit: February 20, 2017, 07:26:27 PM by wbrejnia »