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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Best Monitor for PicassoII Card
« Reply #14 from previous page: January 05, 2017, 05:29:13 AM »
Quote from: Pat the Cat;819090
Ever tried to run a VGA signal 50 meters? That's kind of tricky. Same with HDMI. Phono can travel further, and SVGA is good up to that sometimes, but you probably didn't know that, either.

Hows about SECAM? Or automated VTR capture / playback / mixing?

You owned a couple, OK. You got something better, fair enough. GFX cards have their uses and abilities, but if you got one performer, it's not the same thing as working with orchestras, you dig the metaphor?

Blah blah blah.  How is any of this relavant to OP's question?  But thanks for telling me again "what I don't know".  :angryfire:
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Best Monitor for PicassoII Card
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2017, 05:31:40 AM »
Quote from: Pat the Cat;819097
So, what is wrong with the opinion that you can wire up one, two, or as many monitors as you want, to a P2?

Well, you can plug a monitor into the input line on the PII if you want, but as the manual itself states, it won't work.  But good luck with that! :lol:

I don't know why you're even carrying on with this pointless argument.  You made an erroneous assumption based on a picture from a manual that you can't even read (as you stated yourself).  I wrote that you were wrong, so as not to derail the thread and confuse OP about how they can hook up monitors to their video card.  Instead of just admitting that you were wrong you had to point out "all the things I don't know".  But, thanks for that.  No idea how I managed to get an engineering degree with all the stuff I don't know! :roflmao:
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Offline Pat the Cat

Re: Best Monitor for PicassoII Card
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2017, 05:34:47 AM »
Again, failed to answer my question. What is a reasonable expectation of distance of the run of a VGA cable?

Let's see you fail to answer that one too. Let's see who knows more about Monitors and video and connecting them Mike. Let's have fun.

Oh that's right, you have fun by lashing out at people. And I haven't lashed out at you.

You may think I have. You may feel I have You may post I have. Just do what the hell you like, Mike. Keeping on pouring scorn, and bile on. Flame me. Tell the world how Mike never made a mistake, always did what he wanted to do, with video. And the Amiga. And other people's felelings, and inquiries, and honest debate.

It's not getting the poor sod who asked a question about reaching a better system, but it's making you feel better, so go for it.
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Best Monitor for PicassoII Card
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2017, 05:38:11 AM »
Quote from: Pat the Cat;819100
Again, failed to answer my question. What is a reasonable expectation of distance of the run of a VGA cable?

Remind me again, what does that have to do with OP's question about looking for a monitor recommendation that will work well with their particular graphics card?

Are you having fun trolling me?  Don't you have any better hobbies?  Oh well, at least all the comments will keep OP's post at the top of the forum, where they're more likely to get some actual, intelligent answers.  :laughing:
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Offline Pat the Cat

Re: Best Monitor for PicassoII Card
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2017, 05:41:38 AM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;819099
Well, you can plug a monitor into the input line on the PII if you want, but as the manual itself states, it won't work.  But good luck with that! :lol:


No Mike, the correct answer was, you can plug any number of displays into a display adaptor, with the right conenctions and hardware. It's called "Television". You might have heard of the concept.

You could call it "hardware to distribute analog video signals to multiple displays", but there's any number of ways of doing it.

One, two, a million, any number, if you can afford the hardware. And of course, if have a separate input, as you pointed out, and the card and separate input source are synced, you can mix between them them. Not on the P2, but hey, I've already said, you need extra gear to mix between 2 analog sources. Right? Right. And someimes, you want that Amiga display - you might not want it from the P2, but it's not like the P2 turns it all off. It doesn't. Just doesn't like to switch or mix with it very easily.

Easily solvable, with the right video hardware. But Mike never used extra hardware. Because he didn't know you can do that. And he still doesn't believe you can.

That's right. Mike doesn't believe you can do TV with an Amiga. Well, not just an Amiga.

But it helps. ;)
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Offline Acill

Re: Best Monitor for PicassoII Card
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2017, 05:42:17 AM »
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Best Monitor for PicassoII Card
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2017, 05:47:22 AM »
Well Pat, you are are clearly a towering juggernaut of intellectual superiority.  After careful consideration, the only thing I have to say about your scurrilous rant is, you're an  idiot.  Do you have any more insults you'd like to throw my way before I  put you back on the block list?  :)
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Offline utri007

Re: Best Monitor for PicassoII Card
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2017, 06:35:59 AM »
Quote from: Acill;819103
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Could you stop, please?

Some new LCD monitors might be really difficult to setup with PIcasso II. I don't have one, but I have Spectrum and I ques it is about a same thing. I have Spectrum and xPert Merlin and both can display native amiga video through passthrough.  Both works very well with DCE ScanMagic.

Mike, I would be interested to know what is pratical diffrence between Picasso II and Spectrum?

I have xPert Merlin in use and it is actually very nice card, compared it's bad reputatipon. Got one wich was broken and my friend managet to get it fixed. Very fast and reliable, if you don't use 24bit screen modes.
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Re: Best Monitor for PicassoII Card
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2017, 11:24:11 AM »
In my DAW studio I have 2 monitors for Film and Music editing  but I really only need one for the Amiga (22-30inch in size would suffice).

Mike, Pat and everyone else, I appreciate the info...lots' to think about.

Thanks again
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Offline paul1981

Re: Best Monitor for PicassoII Card
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2017, 12:18:45 PM »
Quote from: Pat the Cat;819100
What is a reasonable expectation of distance of the run of a VGA cable?


After reading this thread I still don't know. Is it long enough to form a noose and hang myself with? :lol:
 

Offline Pat the Cat

Re: Best Monitor for PicassoII Card
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2017, 08:19:07 PM »
Quote from: paul1981;819125
After reading this thread I still don't know. Is it long enough to form a noose and hang myself with? :lol:

Correct answer is - it depends on the cables construction materials and design, the output levels from the video source, and the amount of ambient electromagneic interference, but about 6 meters is considered the limit, unless you start building in amplifiers and transmitters.

Let's see if the anyone agrees...

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