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Offline AcillTopic starter

Re: Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2016, 05:56:30 AM »
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Very interesting. When you say "all screen modes", does that include PAL screen modes too?

If so, outstanding... best of both worlds, fast games, bigger area Workbench screens.:confused:

If not, still pretty good. Vastly reduced flicker on NTSC interlaced... without a flicker fixer. :)


Havent tried PAL,  only have a stock 500 here at my moms. Ive read it cant handle interlaced PAL though,  but non interlaced works in PAL fine.
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Re: Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2016, 05:58:20 AM »
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just to be sure before i pick one up locally, is there any issue with screen sizes/ only showing portion etc. when going from workbench to genes and back ?

Its a wide screen,  but it seems to scale very well. So far its been great. Will know more when Im home with it on Tuesday .
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Re: Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2016, 11:13:44 AM »
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The 1200 came with this adapter new?  I got mine used so never knew.  Any idea where I can source some of these adapters?  I'd want to get one for each of my machines... just in case :)


http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?78792-Amiga-VIDEO-VGA-Adapters-amp-Cables-DELUXE-(real-23pin-conns)
 

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Re: Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2016, 12:42:17 PM »
The Dell ST2320L also works on my 1200.
 

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Re: Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2016, 02:06:04 PM »
Even my Dell U2711 works with Amiga.
 

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Re: Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2016, 02:29:28 PM »
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Havent tried PAL,  only have a stock 500 here at my moms. Ive read it cant handle interlaced PAL though,  but non interlaced works in PAL fine.

Well, that's still pretty damn good for games that INSIST on PAL - you get a full screen overscan,,, :)

In fact, might be a bit TOO good - plenty of those games had crazy stuff going on with the Copper in overscan, so if you can see glitches beyond the playing area - you are just seeing the parts normally hidden on a PAL screen. ;)
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Re: Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2017, 06:25:57 PM »
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Awesome find,  paid under $100 shipped for this. Amazing  picture and flicker free native Amiga modes through the VGA input using the 23 to 15 pin adapter the  1200 comes with.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/282307667108


Great advise, I just bought one (somewhere else).
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Re: Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2017, 12:50:14 AM »
I have a DELL U2412M. I just want to confirm that by buying either one of:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=183
http://amigastore.eu/en/207-amiga-rgb-to-vga-monitor-adapter.html

will allow me to use a VGA cable from DELL to VGA/23Pin and will work without any problems. I am put off a little when amigastore says that workbench drivers are required.

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Re: Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2017, 01:12:20 AM »
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Its a wide screen,  but it seems to scale very well. So far its been great. Will know more when Im home with it on Tuesday .


Can you post some pic how it looks like?
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Re: Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2017, 01:21:29 AM »
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I have a DELL U2412M. I just want to confirm that by buying either one of:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=183
http://amigastore.eu/en/207-amiga-rgb-to-vga-monitor-adapter.html

will allow me to use a VGA cable from DELL to VGA/23Pin and will work without any problems. I am put off a little when amigastore says that workbench drivers are required.

Cheers.


I have a 2412 as well, which I use with a scandoubler. I don't think it works without one; it's not 15KHz friendly. It is 50Hz friendly, though, so your (scandoubled) PAL screenmodes will work.
 

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Re: Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2017, 02:23:25 AM »
I have a  Dell ST2420L monitor that syncs to 15k.  It has HDMI, DVI and VGA inputs.  I picked it up off eBay for $60.00.  Non interlaced modes are fine but interlace flickers too much.  

Dell ST2420L - 1920x1080 24" widescreen monitor.

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Re: Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2017, 03:30:28 AM »
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I have a  Dell ST2420L monitor that syncs to 15k.  It has HDMI, DVI and VGA inputs.  I picked it up off eBay for $60.00.  Non interlaced modes are fine but interlace flickers too much.  

Dell ST2420L - 1920x1080 24" widescreen monitor.


The ST2320L is the same, apart from being a tiny bit smaller. Supports 50Hz. I use it with an Indivision ECS. The monitor's scaler isn't great and leaves some visible phase banding and some blurred/soft edges, but it works well enough.
 

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Re: Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2017, 09:25:23 AM »
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The ST2320L is the same, apart from being a tiny bit smaller. Supports 50Hz. I use it with an Indivision ECS. The monitor's scaler isn't great and leaves some visible phase banding and some blurred/soft edges, but it works well enough.

Hello Matt. As far as I know, if the monitor can support 15khz then you do not need any scan doubler. So, although you use the doubler, I just wanted to ensure that having one of those vga/rgb connectors would suffice, albeit not as good without the doubler.

I got my impression after reading http://www.amibay.com/archive/index.php/t-78792.html and checking that my monitor was on the list.

I really don't want to spend the money on anything other than the 23 pin adapter.

Thank you.
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Re: Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2017, 02:13:05 PM »
No scandoubler needed if you don't go beyond hires. Interlaced, no good.
 

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Re: Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2017, 03:04:13 PM »
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No scandoubler needed if you don't go beyond hires. Interlaced, no good.


Can you remind me how often interlaced is necessary when using the Amiga? Are there many applications/games that require it ?
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Offline AcillTopic starter

Re: Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!
« Reply #29 from previous page: September 19, 2017, 03:13:18 PM »
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No scandoubler needed if you don't go beyond hires. Interlaced, no good.


Not true, all modes available when you put the PAL and NTSC monitor files in devs are available and work well EXCEPT PAL HIRES Interlaced.

NTSC HIRES Interlaced and the lower res interlaced modes, including PAL work great, just the PAL HIGH RES Interlaced had a glitched in the scan lines. It displays fine, but the scns are reversed so the pictures looks strange. Its actually kinda neat to look at, but useless.
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