Guidance on selling a A4000 and A3000

[MarkMaker2]

Ah I see sorry about that! Well sorry for your loss..

How much are you selling the 4000 for?

I don't know yet. The process keeps getting interrupted by other obligations.


UPDATE

Finally got them hooked up.

3000 boots to he ROM 2.0 screen

4000 power supply fan spins but screen is black

Can't see any obvious acid burn from leaked batteries but also no idea where to look.

The 4000 has a SCSI card Spitfire DKB + A2065 Ethernet Card + a video card that I can't identify yet but remember it was a Cybervision 64. It is also a 060 but not sure what card -- fairly sure it was made by the same people who made the Cybervision 64.

The 3000 also has a A2065 Ethernet card as well as a Phonepak card. It is an 040 but the conversion was a custom mod and it also has the 030 chip

[AltRN8]

Take pictures of the boards you're not sure of and I am positive many of us here can help you identify them.

[MarkMaker2]

Odd discovery. As I am trying to get the 4000 to boot I removed the drive cage and there are two drives - both have power but only the SCSI drive has a cable.

I found an IDE cable in my collection of old computer parts trying to figure out if it is notch towards the back of the Amiga or notch towards the front. The Amiga has a 1 on the back top side and the cable has a red marking on one side so I assume the side with the red is pin 1.

Connecting it that way gets the drive making some noise but still just a black screen.

My 1084S monitor appears to be dead so this makes it difficult to figure out as the Cybervision 64 won't work without a successful boot and I don't have anything to connect to the normal Amiga video output.

I remember owning a device that allowed me to connect by A500 to a TV. I'll see if I can find that tomorrow.

[SACC-guy]

The 4000 should boot to the insert workbench disk if the hard drive doesn't work correctly.

as to the Cybervision64, doesn't it needs a vga type monitor?

Often the reason for a black screen is the cpu card is nor inserted incorrectly, reset it.

[MarkMaker2]

The 4000 should boot to the insert workbench disk if the hard drive doesn't work correctly.

as to the Cybervision64, doesn't it needs a vga type monitor?

Often the reason for a black screen is the cpu card is nor inserted incorrectly, reset it.

The Cybervision64 is a VGA output but if I remember correctly there is only output from the add-on graphics cards after a successful boot.

It has been a long time but that is how I remember it. Also there has to be a reason I kept the 1084S around and I believe that was for situations like this. If there is a insert Workbench screen I don't think the Cybervision would show it -- the output would only be visible to a monitor attached to the stock video output.

[SACC-guy]

I have a dell monitor that syncs to both 15 and 31
Oh well...
Do you have a local amiga users group for help with parts and testing?

Here in Sacramento, when we need help, we just ask each to swap parts or test.

If you are local (don't know as your profile is blank) to us, give a call

[MarkMaker2]

I don't think so. I'm in Ottawa and googling Ottawa + Amiga Users Group I get a few hits but nothing that looks like a active group.


I found a 390682-01 which appears to be an Amiga Video to VGA converter so that opens up an opportunity to find a monitor that syncs to 15. Not sure how hard that is.

I currently have 2 Dell, 2 Acer, and 2 Samsung LCD monitors. Is the 15 for Horizontal or Vertical sync?

Is there a list of monitors somewhere that work? I remember finding monitors that sync at 15 was hard even during the Amiga peak.

[MarkMaker2]

There is some kind of video signal coming from the Amiga Video slot. When I connect it to my Samsung LCD the monitor displays a not ideal video popup. When I remove it I go back to no signal. So it can detect a signal but I would need a sync doubler to see what it is

The Acer was also a failure. All I got was a red weave pattern.

The Dell is a 3008WFP. I haven't tested it yet but found the specs http://monitor.b4by.net/dell_3008wfp.html

Scan
Mines. horizontal frequency   30 kHz
Max. horizontal frequency   94 kHz
Mines. vertical frequency   56 Hz
Max. vertical frequency   86 Hz
Max. frequency 800 x 600   75 Hz
Max. frequency in 1024 x 768   75 Hz
Max. frequency in 1280 x 1024   75 Hz
Max. frequency 1600 x 1200   60 Hz

Since every number is greater than 15 not optimistic.

[tonyvdb]

Unlikely you will find an LCD monitor in Canada that will work with the Amiga. I looked for years and never did so finally bought the Indivision but in your case thats not really a viable option given your selling the 4000.
There must be someone in your community who has a working Amiga setup that might be willing to test your A4000?

[SnkBitten]

Might be a bit of an inconvenience but do you have a way to attach the Amiga HD to your PC and use WinUAE to boot the drive.  You can then set the screenmode to DblNTSC or Multiscan and save it and then reinstall the HD in the Amiga and boot to a screenmode a standard monitor can display.  I had to do similar actions as I have no 15Khz monitor for my A4000 and it arrived with no HD and I had to install the OS in WinUAE and then move the drive over to my A4000.

[SACC-guy]

My Dell SR2320LF and ST2420LF both work at 15 and 31

Doesn't a red screen indicate a memory or rom problem?
Maybe Pull the memory, clean the contacts and the same with roms.

Just be careful not to break the holders on the memory slots! (from sad experience)

I still think the cpu board also needs to be pulled and contacts cleaned then correctly installed...

[MarkMaker2]

I think the red weave is just from the video signal being at 15 on a monitor that doesn't support that.

I'm fairly certain I have some older computers that probably have IDE so WinUAE might be an option but I am going to try to use the A520 first. I think that will allow me to output to any TV. Quality will likely be horrible but I just need to see if the Workbench screen is showing and if yes then replace the drive and install the OS on a working drive.

The 060 card I have now identified as an Apollo 4060

For the 3000 it is a lot easier thanks to the native VGA output. When I tested it I got a white screen with ROM 2.0 and some graphics. Not sure if it needed longer to boot or if the drive there is also dead.

I've pulled out a bunch of floppy disks but no luck on finding my OS disks yet. I know I have them + multiple backups but just not sure where or if they will still work after all these years.

[SACC-guy]

On the 3000 drive, older scsi drives from years ago had a stickion issue.
Where if the drive wasn't used it "stuck" in place. I saw one guy rap the drive as it powered up to free it but...he had to replace the drive anyway.

Is there any battery leakage on the 4000, it could have eaten at the memory simms?

[spaceman88]

I don't think so. I'm in Ottawa and googling Ottawa + Amiga Users Group I get a few hits but nothing that looks like a active group.


I found a 390682-01 which appears to be an Amiga Video to VGA converter so that opens up an opportunity to find a monitor that syncs to 15. Not sure how hard that is.

I currently have 2 Dell, 2 Acer, and 2 Samsung LCD monitors. Is the 15 for Horizontal or Vertical sync?

Is there a list of monitors somewhere that work? I remember finding monitors that sync at 15 was hard even during the Amiga peak.

The Dell ST 2320L works great on the Amiga. I bought mine about 3 years ago (from Dell Canada), there was also a few other Dell monitors that work.

[MarkMaker2]

I don't believe there is any battery leakage. I don't know where the batteries are located but I've examined the boards and I didn't see anything that looks like acid burn or discoloration. Everything looks pretty good.

The 4000 has memory in two locations. There are two sticks on the main board and two sticks on the Apollo. If I remember correctly the Apollo required that there be RAM on the main board. I've removed and reseated the RAM on the Apollo but not the main board although I think I would have noticed acid burn.

The 4000 has a SCSI drive as well as the IDE drive so that gives me a second option.

If I can use WinUAE to make a working IDE drive and then just drop it into the 4000 that would be perfect. I've never used WinUAE though so it would be a learning experience.

[SACC-guy]

I don't know WinUAE. And I have never tried setting up a drive in a pc.
I prefer to just use amiga.

But I have Amiga Forever, it uses WinUAE but with custom setting for various Amigas. Great package! Recommeded!

So many questions...Does the 4000 have a battery? It's just by the simm sockets on the motherboard, big cylinder thingy!

Can you attach a pic?