Matzes a1k.org Graphics Adapter...

[guest11527]

I have 20 years old software that became completely worthless and I am not interested in the platform anymore.

Wait a minute... so worthless I hear people here arguing all about that they want it, and use it, so worthless some third party products being developed depend on it? I don't know what I call it, but it's not "worthless". It means it has a value, and its more than fair then to sell it.

[guest11527]

So the business in Amigaland should be done like this:
A: We're making something, wanna cooperate ?
B: No.
A: Screw you, we're doing this anyway!

And that's it.

Except that there never was a "No". There was a "pay for it, it has a value". It's not a decision of a single party to stop or not to stop negotiations. And it's not "We're doing this anyway", it more a matter of "We cannot pay it, so let's steal it.".  

And Cosmos has the right solution. +1 for that.

I my world, the thief goes into the jail, and not the owner.

[Cosmos Amiga]

Hold on, who is continuously breaching copyright here... They do want to sell. For money. If that's not morally right for you, you're on the wrong planet.

Not everything is for free here, and just because you want it for free does not mean you can get it.

You act like a child who is denied a lollypop... Buy one if you want one. It's really THAT simple.

I already answer at this : they make money back in the days with P96, and again few years ago with the OS4...

So now, it's extra... They can give now, the Classic are near dead...

You take us for stupid guys, and you mock us, the last Amiga fans who fight to Amiga Classic survive...

[kolla]

When it comes to FPGA systems (and emulators), many (maybe even most) users are not at all interested in RTG, heck, many aren't even interested in Amiga.

[grond]

If he has no money, he cannot use or depend on software that costs money. It's really that simple.

No, it means that the "invitation for a dinner" agreement between Gunnar and A&T still applies.

BTW would you please stop mentioning copyrights? No copyrights have been infringed as nothing has been copied. It's really that simple.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Whelp, another thread on an interesting new piece of hardware derailed by people bi***ing about copyrights. Shocker!

[Heiroglyph]

Realistically, users haven't seen them as part of the community for the last 15 years or so. If anything, they are a thorn in our sides.

If they gave a single siht about the community, they would have released the DDK a decade or more ago.

We can't give them money, they don't update or support this software (at least on 68k, not sure on PPC) and as far as an end user is concerned, they are standing in the way of others creating new hardware.

Either take my money and give me support or don't complain when someone figures out how to write a driver that works with your 16 year old software.

[billt]

The best solution is to put these two f*ckers in jail : no license problem anymore then...

puting them in jail does not void their copyright ownership... Problem not solved. And i am frustrated about this too. I have ddk from ages ago. (probably an old version by now with some advancements in os4 since then) I cant do anything with it. I cant help apollo or matzes or fpgaarcade teams if i wanted to. i was hopeful that p96 rights would be purchased for licensing but it sounds questionable if this will happen now. I hope I'm wrong.

I also cannot do anything with the new os4.1fe graphics driver api, since those who said to contact at a particular emailaddr dont seem to read it. Maybe they don't even connect to that addr? at least have the decency to say no... Maybe if/when they get gallium stuff released then we can just use the gallium driver stuff available elsewhere? Or decide to change up gallium for vulkan if no progress has yet been made with the former? But still no help to 3.x users/devs.

[pyrre]

A question: (or questions)

these are the system requirements:

• System requirements:      68020, 4MB fast RAM, max. 6MB fast RAM in ZorroII address space,      Kickstart 3.1, HDD
• Recommended system configuration:      68030@25Mhz with 8MB fast RAM, Kickstart 3.1, HDD

My amiga 500 specs:
CPU 030 @ 50mhz - CHECK
Kickstart - 2.04 - FAIL
Fastram - 32MB outside Zorro II space - ?
Fastram in Zorro II space = 0
HDD - CHECK

And, I got the trumpcard. it provides two Zorro II slots. half length.
one slot is occupied for the trumpcard. and one is available.

Will this GFX card work in my system?
Or do i need to upgrade kickstart and add Zorro II ram?

[Iggy]

I noticed on the website that the price has gone up and that drivers are not included.
What good is the card without drivers?

[guest11527]

My amiga 500 specs:
CPU 030 @ 50mhz - CHECK
Kickstart - 2.04 - FAIL
Fastram - 32MB outside Zorro II space - ?
Fastram in Zorro II space = 0
HDD - CHECK

And, I got the trumpcard. it provides two Zorro II slots. half length.
one slot is occupied for the trumpcard. and one is available.

Will this GFX card work in my system?

It seems likely, though the question is *NOT* how much RAM you have in the Zorro-II space, but how much of the Zorro-II space in total is occupied. I do not know anything about the trumpcard, so I cannot really answer.

The card itself occupies 2MB (plus IO space) in the Zorro-II space. In total, the Zorro-II allows for 8MB autoconfig space, i.e. you must have at least 2MB free.

However, I wonder how the overall construction of this on an Amiga 500 would look like. It is physically not exactly "pretty". The card is for an A2000, so it does not fit into the A500 physically. I believe the trumpcard is something external?

Or do i need to upgrade kickstart and add Zorro II ram?

No. The RAM and the CPU is required to run P96, not for the card itself.

[wawrzon]

I noticed on the website that the price has gone up and that drivers are not included.
What good is the card without drivers?

further consequences of tumults around p96?

[UberFreak]

I noticed on the website that the price has gone up and that drivers are not included.
What good is the card without drivers?

The drivers were posted on Amibay and a1k some time ago & are still there.

[Iggy]

The drivers were posted on Amibay and a1k some time ago & are still there.

So the question now is, is the card worth the new price.

When is someone going to post comments on their test of this device?

[pyrre]

It seems likely, though the question is *NOT* how much RAM you have in the Zorro-II space, but how much of the Zorro-II space in total is occupied. I do not know anything about the trumpcard, so I cannot really answer.

Only the trumpcard itself occupy the ZII space. By how much, i have no clue.
The fast ram on the derringer is outside zorro space.

The card itself occupies 2MB (plus IO space) in the Zorro-II space. In total, the Zorro-II allows for 8MB autoconfig space, i.e. you must have at least 2MB free.

Then it should coexist with the trumpcard, or any other disk controller for that matter.

However, I wonder how the overall construction of this on an Amiga 500 would look like. It is physically not exactly "pretty". The card is for an A2000, so it does not fit into the A500 physically. I believe the trumpcard is something external?

The trumpcard is simply just a Zorro II SCSI controller. and was made for the A2000. But on A500 it comes with a sidecar and the hdd is mounted inside the "roof" of the case. It also includes an edge connector that provides the A500 with (in my case) two zorro slots. There was made an optional ram board for the trumpcard A500 version.

No. The RAM and the CPU is required to run P96, not for the card itself.

Hmm... in theory, it should work in my setup then....
I need to start saving some cash.

[guest11527]

So the question now is, is the card worth the new price.

When is someone going to post comments on their test of this device?

Well, I have it, so what's your question? It is approximately equivalent to the Picollo SD64, i.e. it is based on the CirrusGD5434 chip. You can get up to 1280x1024 in 8 bit, or 1024x768 in 32 bits (IIRC). The card has a hardware sprite, a blitter, full P96 compatibility, a built-in VGA switch - video pass-through for Amiga.

It is a little bit more capable than my aging GVP spectrum as it supports a couple of additional higher resolution video modes, (GVP required interlace in 1280x1024 and maxed out at 800x600 in true color) but it is also based on an aged VGA chip. The VGA chip stems from the follow-up generation of the GVP spectrum chip series (which used the Cirrus GD5424 or 5428, I don't remember precisely which) and hence is a bit better.

Was it worth the investment? Yes, I would say so. It's not only a frame-buffer (i.e. what you find in some new FPGA designs) but is fully hardware accelerated. It's certainly a retro design and hence "fits" psychologically into the aged design of the system. (-: