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Offline darksun9210

Re: Amiga 1200 edge connector pursuit
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 16, 2017, 09:48:11 PM »
i'd easily suck down dropping a 20 on a connector if I knew that was the deal. unfortunately that's my data sample set of one. not really reflective of the community at large. but hey.

I wish you guys luck. my A1200's await with baited breath.

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Offline eXeler0

Re: Amiga 1200 edge connector pursuit
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2017, 12:03:17 AM »
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Nah after all to conclude, it is only how some company plays a game. Difference is that Sullins will give you higher price of the connectors but lower tooling fee. In China you got opposite so at the end you have the same price in terms of low quantity numbers we have here.

@Majsta, was this not resolved a while ago already? (I had the impression Kipper2k found a good source some time ago.) Have you received any samples from the chosen supplier to determine quality?
 

Offline Acill

Re: Amiga 1200 edge connector pursuit
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2017, 02:14:03 AM »
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@Majsta, was this not resolved a while ago already? (I had the impression Kipper2k found a good source some time ago.) Have you received any samples from the chosen supplier to determine quality?


The last few things I got in from Kipper has Sullins printed on them. If you can get a sample from a Chinese or Taiwanese company I say go for it, but if your looking at only getting say 100 at a time and they offer you them at under $10 each, no way are they going to be good quality.
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Offline Pat the Cat

Re: Amiga 1200 edge connector pursuit
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2017, 02:16:39 AM »
I guess if you ask around enough for enough free samples, eventually you'll get enough quality ones that you can pay Sullins if you want for the remainder.

Alternatively...

http://www.esuppliersindia.com/products/edge-connector.html

https://www.tradeindia.com/manufacturers/edge-connector.html

Then you'll have got them all half price. :hammer:

Acquaintance did that with plastic filaments samples. He ended up with over 2 tonnes of the stuff. At £20 a kilo, nice business if you can get it. £40K for clicking on the internet, in worth of goods, anyway.

You don't give out part numbers. You give out specs, dimensions, materials. If they want to meet it, let them bust their guts trying.

What you really want is a low volume manufacturer. This is the Indian dimension. They can do that.

I can't hunt for you on this, but there are 800 million Indians. Some of them make edge connectors.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2017, 02:23:07 AM by Pat the Cat »
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Re: Amiga 1200 edge connector pursuit
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2017, 02:32:02 AM »
There are even over 1.3 billion Indians now :lol:
 
 means even more can do the connectors. JK
 
 I think the biggest problem with the Vampires is the waitlist.
 
 I once asked KEL to send me some samples as I needed to adapt a CS MKI to fit in an eagle tower for a research project, and I got 10 samples, just like that.
 
 even if one can source 1000 of the connectors it will take over a year to make them all at the current production rate.
 
 Still waiting for my Vampire 600 :(
 

Offline Pat the Cat

Re: Amiga 1200 edge connector pursuit
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2017, 04:05:00 AM »
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The last few things I got in from Kipper has Sullins printed on them. If you can get a sample from a Chinese or Taiwanese company I say go for it, but if your looking at only getting say 100 at a time and they offer you them at under $10 each, no way are they going to be good quality.

It is totally random what the build quality of any supplier is. It depends on their production method and attention to perfecting a production run.

What you need is an unbiased quality control of sample assessment.

Cost is an indicator of quality, but the real proof is measurement. How thick is the gold plate? How consistent  is the build? How reliable are the tolerances? Cost isn't just based on raw material cost. Some outfits in that part of the world make with recycled ingredients. If you effectively have your own gold mine for the plating process, that helps enormously. Likewise, recycling ABS for the plastic carrier. You can cut unit costs to the bone that way. In a lot of courntries you even qualify for a government subsidy because you are earning them carbon credits. Claiming it can be very awkward though.

It's a jungle, the supply chain. I'll agree with you there.

But, if you get a manufacturer with spare capacity of a LARGER, longer adaptor size, that can be cut down precisely, that is one way around. Likewise, adapting two smaller adaptors.

You got to be flexible in what you can use, but absolutely cast iron with regards to what you accept as quality stock. I'm right with you on that last point, Chief.

Finding perfect with one supplier is unlikely. You might end up buying two smaller units from different suppliers. That would mean checking BOTH for build quality and tolerances. It sounds easier but it still has issues that you have to address and get the right answers to get a reliable, dependable circuit.

And of course, if the free samples are a bit skimpy on the gold plate, you can always try extra plating them. You won't save every single one probably, but that can be worth doing too. Just don't overdo it, it's a very subtle process to manage properly. That's what Sullins are really charging for - consistency of plate.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2017, 04:23:12 AM by Pat the Cat »
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