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Offline fondpondforever

CD1200 Prototype where to buy?
« on: April 27, 2016, 01:24:28 AM »
Is it possible to buy a CD1200 Prototype model any where? Would it be listed on eBay, there must be some people who have it for example ex-employees at Commodore.
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: CD1200 Prototype where to buy?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2016, 01:31:38 AM »
Quote from: fondpondforever;807598
Is it possible to buy a CD1200 Prototype model any where? Would it be listed on eBay, there must be some people who have it for example ex-employees at Commodore.

You must be made of money.  ;)
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Offline fondpondforever

Re: CD1200 Prototype where to buy?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2016, 01:44:07 AM »
Why, how much is it selling for?
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Offline Matt_H

Re: CD1200 Prototype where to buy?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2016, 02:30:33 AM »
As far as I am aware, none has ever appeared for sale, nor has anyone ever seen one other than its original showing in 1993 (exception: the empty case pictured on the BBoAH). The number manufactured is probably in the single digits, possibly just the one. The engineer who designed it may have it in a box somewhere, or it may have gone down with the ship when Commodore imploded.

Assuming it survived, it will be buggy and barely functional - it was a prototype, after all.

If one ever appears for sale, expect to pay a minimum of something in the mid 4-digits.
 

Offline stefcep2

Re: CD1200 Prototype where to buy?
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2016, 03:03:55 AM »
Quote from: Matt_H;807602
As far as I am aware, none has ever appeared for sale, nor has anyone ever seen one other than its original showing in 1993 (exception: the empty case pictured on the BBoAH). The number manufactured is probably in the single digits, possibly just the one. The engineer who designed it may have it in a box somewhere, or it may have gone down with the ship when Commodore imploded.

Assuming it survived, it will be buggy and barely functional - it was a prototype, after all.

If one ever appears for sale, expect to pay a minimum of something in the mid 4-digits.


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Offline fondpondforever

Re: CD1200 Prototype where to buy?
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2016, 08:54:00 AM »
The question is, how many of these models exist today. My guess is 5 based on your information, what is yours? 1 seems abit pessimistic. I wonder if anyone has got a factual figure, maybe an ex employee of Commodore would know.

If it was buggy and not user friendly being the nature of a prototype, sure you could modify it to a functioning accessory.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2016, 09:07:03 AM by fondpondforever »
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Offline danwood

Re: CD1200 Prototype where to buy?
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2016, 09:07:20 AM »
There was the white, "finished looking" prototype that was shown at CeBit in 1994 and appeared in all the Amiga magazines, but afaik this has never been seen since, and nobody knows where it went.  Sadly, it probably ended up getting trashed as Commodore went bust 2 weeks later, or maybe still lurks in a box in some dusty warehouse to this day.  Nobody seems to have seen it since.



There was also another one that was much less complete and was just a dark grey case with no logos on or anything, apparently that odd Merlancia guy (Ryan?) had it mounted on the hood of his Delorian iirc back in around 2001! (Though he was full of %&$#, so maybe not, but images of it do seem to be credited to him).
 

Offline jack-3d

Re: CD1200 Prototype where to buy?
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2016, 10:11:25 AM »
Maybe someone handy could use malfunction or dead CD32 cut the case, print the plastic backplate, use notebook CDROM and some PCMCIA IDE interface such as Alfadata CD1200. But anyway it will need driver in OS and it wont give you Akiko, memory expansion and 68030 expansion...

Its similar situation like with CDTV II, some said there exist 3 working pieces and starting price was 8000 USD as far as I remember.

UPDATE: Now I just found this consists of the CDROM unit and also special accelerator card that contained SIMM slot, CPU and Akiko. http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/media/download_photos/cd1200_2.jpg
« Last Edit: April 27, 2016, 10:13:49 AM by jack-3d »
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Offline bbond007

Re: CD1200 Prototype where to buy?
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2016, 11:04:23 AM »
Quote from: fondpondforever;807598
Is it possible to buy a CD1200 Prototype model any where? Would it be listed on eBay, there must be some people who have it for example ex-employees at Commodore.


That Merlancia guy is the only one I think may have had one...
 

Offline Ral-Clan

Re: CD1200 Prototype where to buy?
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2016, 11:43:02 AM »
Quote from: fondpondforever;807618
The question is, how many of these models exist today. My guess is 5 based on your information, what is yours? 1 seems abit pessimistic. I wonder if anyone has got a factual figure, maybe an ex employee of Commodore would know.

If it was buggy and not user friendly being the nature of a prototype, sure you could modify it to a functioning accessory.

1. Really?  A team of Commodore engineers weren't able to fix it (and presumably made a new revision prototype to correct the bugs) and you're thinking it would be an easy fix?

2. Would you really want to decimate the value of an original prototype by hacking it so you could have a working CD1200?
« Last Edit: April 27, 2016, 04:45:21 PM by ral-clan »
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Offline fondpondforever

Re: CD1200 Prototype where to buy?
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2016, 01:01:19 PM »
The White version looks alot nicer than the grey one. So your telling me nobody knows if the White version of CD1200 exists today. Do you think David Pleasance would know? Thanks.
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Offline OldB0y

Re: CD1200 Prototype where to buy?
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2016, 01:08:44 PM »
Quote from: jack-3d;807622

UPDATE: Now I just found this consists of the CDROM unit and also special accelerator card that contained SIMM slot, CPU and Akiko. http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/media/download_photos/cd1200_2.jpg


That is the same image that appeared in all the magazines.
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Offline psxphill

Re: CD1200 Prototype where to buy?
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2016, 04:12:49 PM »
Quote from: jack-3d;807622
UPDATE: Now I just found this consists of the CDROM unit and also special accelerator card that contained SIMM slot, CPU and Akiko.


I'm pretty sure it wasn't going to include a CPU. The Akiko supposedly wasn't hardware compatible with the CD32 and an 030 with RAM could do the conversion quicker than Akiko anyway.

Using an IDE or PCMCIA drive was a much better option.

In hindsight I should have bought a CD32 & accelerator
 

Offline zipper

Re: CD1200 Prototype where to buy?
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2016, 04:25:38 PM »
The planned CD1200-Plug in card for Amiga 1200 should have a socket for a 030 expansion http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=1604
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: CD1200 Prototype where to buy?
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2016, 06:13:00 PM »
Quote from: zipper;807634
The planned CD1200-Plug in card for Amiga 1200 should have a socket for a 030 expansion

A1200 should've had an '030 from the get-go.  Or at least some fast ram.  But meh, hindsight is 20-20, another example of Commodore shortsightedness, etc., blahblahblah.  ;)
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