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Offline chris

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #104 on: January 13, 2016, 06:46:33 PM »
Quote from: utri007;802036
Would use of Thomas Richter's back port of OS4 layers.library help and make things significantly easier?


Possibly - I didn't know such a thing existed.

I've just uplaoded a new version with some of the text layout problems fixed.  It's still broken (missing text on the welcome page!) but shouldn't go into an infinite loop any more.
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #105 on: January 13, 2016, 06:52:43 PM »
Quote from: chris;802069
Possibly - I didn't know such a thing existed.

I've just uplaoded a new version with some of the text layout problems fixed.  It's still broken (missing text on the welcome page!) but shouldn't go into an infinite loop any more.

I think this is the one he's referring to.  Long thread about it here:  http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=67649

And download here:  http://aminet.net/package/util/sys/layers

Is http://www.unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk/index.php?pg=netsurf  is the best place to download your latest builds?  Thanks!
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Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #106 on: January 13, 2016, 11:50:27 PM »
Tested, I think that loop is still there?  But it indeed looks now some way different?

Second pic is without background. Looks good. If I disable background, I can't turn it ON again from menu/gui. Need to edit user/choises file.
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Offline chris

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #107 on: January 14, 2016, 12:15:46 AM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;802070
I think this is the one he's referring to.  Long thread about it here:  http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=67649

And download here:  http://aminet.net/package/util/sys/layers


Interesting.  I've had a look at it, and at my code, and... it appears I only use one OS4 function, which is avoidable.  I've ported it over to OS3, and the annoying layout problems have gone!  Hurray!

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Is http://www.unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk/index.php?pg=netsurf  is the best place to download your latest builds?  Thanks!


Yes, although it only points to the same place as the other link I've been giving out.

New version there now with the layers-based tile plotter.
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Offline AcillTopic starter

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #108 on: January 14, 2016, 01:26:33 AM »
Nice, I will do some more testing and report on how its working on my system. I still dont understand why it takes as long to load pages as it does though! I have 408MB free and an 060, lol.
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Offline AcillTopic starter

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #109 on: January 14, 2016, 03:31:17 AM »
Working nice now but still slow. I cant adjust any of the prefs if I go into settings. Also I noticed if I play with the scale setting and reduce it the screen gets very angry and doesnt redraw properly. It starts to mix up previous screens with new. If I return it back to normal it fixes itself.

Looking forward to the day this is optimised and works as well as Ibrowse for general browsing if that happens!
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Offline Tygre

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #110 on: January 14, 2016, 04:56:31 AM »
Hi fishy_fiz and all!

Quote from: fishy_fiz;801707
Anyway, I'd meant Elinks. Which I see now checking the site appears not to have been updated for about 3 years. Not uncommon for a projects website to go unmaintained though while there's activity in its source repository.

Sorry to change the topic of this thread back and forth (maybe this thread should be split between a thread on NetSurf and another on "alternative" Web browsers?) but following your idea, fishy_fiz, I took Links v2.12 and managed to compile and run it :) I had to make a small change to handle correctly the arrow keys. (Why would the arrow key codes be different on Amiga and other OSes? :rolleyes:)



I also managed to get Duktape to compile and to run with Sami Vaarala's help... It is quite easy to use and fast actually!!! :banana:
So, I will now try to compile ELinks, which seems in colour :laughing:
And, maybe, one day, put ELinks and Duktape together?


Cheers!

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #111 on: January 14, 2016, 08:18:02 AM »
Congratulations Chris. :) well done. Need to test new build this evening.

Quote from: Acill;802106
Working nice now but still slow. I cant adjust any of the prefs if I go into settings. Also I noticed if I play with the scale setting and reduce it the screen gets very angry and doesnt redraw properly. It starts to mix up previous screens with new. If I return it back to normal it fixes itself.

Looking forward to the day this is optimised and works as well as Ibrowse for general browsing if that happens!


If you but something like this to user/choises file it is much faster.

use_diskfont:1
font_sans:Topaz
font_serif:Topaz
font_mono:Topaz
font_cursive:Topaz
font_fantasy:Topaz

Matthey suggested these fonts http://www.amiga.org.ru/websurf/

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I also managed to get Duktape to compile and to run with Sami Vaarala's help... It is quite easy to use and fast actually!!!


This is interesting, would this be usefull with netsurf? How modular it is, would it allow easily external java script engine? What are term of use with Ducktape?
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Offline Gulliver

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #112 on: January 14, 2016, 08:25:58 AM »
Quote from: Tygre;802110
Hi fishy_fiz and all!



Sorry to change the topic of this thread back and forth (maybe this thread should be split between a thread on NetSurf and another on "alternative" Web browsers?) but following your idea, fishy_fiz, I took Links v2.12 and managed to compile and run it :) I had to make a small change to handle correctly the arrow keys. (Why would the arrow key codes be different on Amiga and other OSes? :rolleyes:)

I also managed to get Duktape to compile and to run with Sami Vaarala's help... It is quite easy to use and fast actually!!! :banana:
So, I will now try to compile ELinks, which seems in colour :laughing:
And, maybe, one day, put ELinks and Duktape together?


Cheers!


Sounds great!

Any chance you could give us a download? :)
 

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Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #113 on: January 14, 2016, 11:57:23 AM »
Quote from: Tygre;802110
...Links v2.12...I also managed to get Duktape to compile and to run...So, I will now try to compile ELinks

How cool's that? :D
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Offline x303

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #114 on: January 14, 2016, 01:55:36 PM »
If you check about:config, there are a couple of lines which don't add up:

PROGDIR:Users//FontGlyphCache
PROGDIR:Users//Cookies
PROGDIR:Users//URLdb
PROGDIR:Users//Hotlist

This would mean these files are in progdir: instead of 'users'.
 

Offline AcillTopic starter

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #115 on: January 14, 2016, 02:02:58 PM »
Quote from: utri007;802114

If you but something like this to user/choises file it is much faster.

use_diskfont:1
font_sans:Topaz
font_serif:Topaz
font_mono:Topaz
font_cursive:Topaz
font_fantasy:Topaz

Matthey suggested these fonts http://www.amiga.org.ru/websurf/



Does speed up some, but it sure is ugly at 1024x768!
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Offline chris

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #116 on: January 14, 2016, 02:13:30 PM »
Quote from: x303;802125
If you check about:config, there are a couple of lines which don't add up:

PROGDIR:Users//FontGlyphCache
PROGDIR:Users//Cookies
PROGDIR:Users//URLdb
PROGDIR:Users//Hotlist

This would mean these files are in progdir: instead of 'users'.


There should be a "Default" or some other value between those two slashes.  Does GETENV USER return anything?
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Offline x303

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #117 on: January 14, 2016, 03:56:14 PM »
Quote from: chris;802127
There should be a "Default" or some other value between those two slashes.  Does GETENV USER return anything?


Setting user to 'default' works now.
Still some (most ?) of the options aren't working/loaded yet I guess.
For example: homepage_url works, but enable_javascript doesn't.
 

Offline chris

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #118 on: January 14, 2016, 04:25:20 PM »
Quote from: x303;802134
Setting user to 'default' works now.
Still some (most ?) of the options aren't working/loaded yet I guess.
For example: homepage_url works, but enable_javascript doesn't.


JS isn't compiled in, because GCC optimisation issues I can't fix.
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Offline x303

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #119 from previous page: January 14, 2016, 04:48:01 PM »
Quote from: chris;802138
JS isn't compiled in, because GCC optimisation issues I can't fix.


That was just an example. Netsurf should still be able to read the option and show it in about:config. Same with block_advertisements & do_not_track (and others ?).

Still have to find out what caused the crash when reading fonts the first time though (changed all the fonts with another set).
« Last Edit: January 14, 2016, 04:50:36 PM by x303 »