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Re: Overclock ACA620 to 25mhz
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2015, 11:45:00 AM »
I bought my ACA620 when they first came out and nor did I receive a grounding cable. Am I supposed to be using one? I had to send mine back for a firmware update to v2, but I wasn't aware of a grounding issue.
 

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Re: Overclock ACA620 to 25mhz
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2015, 01:54:56 AM »
Same here - installation pics and sheet don't show it.

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I bought my ACA620 when they first came out and nor did I receive a grounding cable. Am I supposed to be using one? I had to send mine back for a firmware update to v2, but I wasn't aware of a grounding issue.
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Re: Overclock ACA620 to 25mhz
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2015, 10:12:52 AM »
Sorry, Ground lead, bad choice of words.

The two screws go into the ground plain. However I found in some cases an extra earth was required. I was thinking of Indivision, ACA doesn't come with ground lead.
I remember having a discussion with IC about including one.
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Re: Overclock ACA620 to 25mhz
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2015, 01:49:33 PM »
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Sorry, Ground lead, bad choice of words.

The two screws go into the ground plain. However I found in some cases an extra earth was required. I was thinking of Indivision, ACA doesn't come with ground lead.
I remember having a discussion with IC about including one.


I didn't get any screws with my card. All i got was the card. Was I supposed to be provided with screws like the ACA630? The instructions didn't mention screws either iirc.
 

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Re: Overclock ACA620 to 25mhz
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2015, 02:36:33 PM »
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I didn't get any screws with my card. All i got was the card. Was I supposed to be provided with screws like the ACA630? The instructions didn't mention screws either iirc.

You must have an early version of board. As new ones have screws.
This must have been the discussion, to include something like that to screw into ground.
Giving you the extra grounding point.
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Re: Overclock ACA620 to 25mhz
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2015, 12:50:23 PM »
I had ann unstable V1, sent it back to Amigakit and received a V2 back (both without any screws).
How essential are the screws to the correct operation (i.e. with it overclocked is it likely to be more stable)? I've not seen any problems with it running stock speed.

Do you have a picture of the of the ACA with installed screws (to see if I have anything similar lying about)?

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You must have an early version of board. As new ones have screws.
This must have been the discussion, to include something like that to screw into ground.
Giving you the extra grounding point.
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Re: Overclock ACA620 to 25mhz
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2015, 03:51:16 PM »
I helped a friend with cooling of his ACA620, although not to overclock but get stable operation in the environment which it was in. Anyway here's what was done:

First we went though a bunch of chipset coolers we had at hand and finaly went with a nice Revoltec Chipset Cooler because of the integrated fan with still a low profile aswell as it's almost matching color to the ACA card... almost any chipset cooler will have same hole spacing so don't sweat it if you can't find this exact one.

Next was to cut a piece of aluminum to size to use as a shim. The heatsink was a bit wobbly so, although probably overkill, we added some foam pads around the hole for good measure.

Now come the modding of the ACA board itself slight. The holes the heatsink utilize had to be widened from 3.0mm to 3.5mm using first a 3.2mm and then a 3.5mm drillbit (gently hand force only). The "upper right" corner of the CPU sockets leg protruded a bit too much though the PCB and came in contact with the heatsink, with a slightly thicker shim this problem would not exist but it was solved by shortening the legs.

Final result.

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Re: Overclock ACA620 to 25mhz
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2015, 01:07:27 PM »
I'm not happy with the +12v going through  the ACA's negative that's currently only taking the +5v from the ACA, it still seems a bit dodgy (for me, not having the electronics experience).
I've had a quick Google for step downing +12v to +5v and a car charger for a mobile phone and use the MC34063 mentioned in this thread http://www.instructables.com/answers/How-can-I-convert-12v-down-to-5v/ can probably do the job.

Having said that it may just be too much work and so I'll leave it with an always on fan pressed up against the chip heat sinks I fitted instead (as opposed to the cool shim job mentioned on the last post).

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... if you want to use the same switch to overclock the cpu, and enable the fan, make sure the ground "input" to the switch is solid, and use the output from the switch to go to the fan as you suggested, shouldn't be an issue.
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Re: Overclock ACA620 to 25mhz
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2015, 07:16:22 AM »
Why convert 12V to 5V inside Amiga when there is already 5V somewhere
in there ? It would be easier to just use wire and take 5V directly from PSU?
 

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Re: Overclock ACA620 to 25mhz
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2015, 10:37:53 AM »
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I'm not happy with the +12v going through  the ACA's negative that's currently only taking the +5v from the ACA, it still seems a bit dodgy (for me, not having the electronics experience).
I've had a quick Google for step downing +12v to +5v and a car charger for a mobile phone and use the MC34063 mentioned in this thread http://www.instructables.com/answers/How-can-I-convert-12v-down-to-5v/ can probably do the job.

Having said that it may just be too much work and so I'll leave it with an always on fan pressed up against the chip heat sinks I fitted instead (as opposed to the cool shim job mentioned on the last post).


There's 12v and 5v on the floppy connector - 12 is yellow, 5 is red.
 

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Re: Overclock ACA620 to 25mhz
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2015, 10:44:19 AM »
Quote from: brownb2;799840
I'm not happy with the +12v going through  the ACA's negative that's currently only taking the +5v from the ACA, it still seems a bit dodgy (for me, not having the electronics experience).
I've had a quick Google for step downing +12v to +5v and a car charger for a mobile phone and use the MC34063 mentioned in this thread http://www.instructables.com/answers/How-can-I-convert-12v-down-to-5v/ can probably do the job.

Having said that it may just be too much work and so I'll leave it with an always on fan pressed up against the chip heat sinks I fitted instead (as opposed to the cool shim job mentioned on the last post).

Get one these power splitter cables and a fan with a molex connector to make things easy.

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-25-4-Pin-Molex-To-3-5-Floppy-Drive-Molex-Power-Splitter-Adaptor-Cable-/371454649551?nav=SEARCH

Actually you'd need one that would enable your floppy to be plugged back in...there's a multitude of these configurations of cables...just have a search on ebay.


There's 12v and 5v on the floppy connector - 12 is yellow, 5 is red.
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Re: Overclock ACA620 to 25mhz
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2015, 11:29:22 AM »
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There's 12v and 5v on the floppy connector - 12 is yellow, 5 is red.

Not in the Amigas it isn't.

If you're worried about grounding the fan through the accelerator, (which probably isn't a good idea) then just get your ground point to the switch from the floppy connector, and have the output from the switch still going to the accelerator (to the screws ground pad, just above connector "CN1")
 

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Re: Overclock ACA620 to 25mhz
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2015, 11:59:59 AM »
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Not in the Amigas it isn't.

If you're worried about grounding the fan through the accelerator, (which probably isn't a good idea) then just get your ground point to the switch from the floppy connector, and have the output from the switch still going to the accelerator (to the screws ground pad, just above connector "CN1")


Haha! I'm loosing it lol. It's 12 and -12 isn't it? I run a 12v fan with a similar cable.
 

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Re: Overclock ACA620 to 25mhz
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2015, 07:29:51 PM »
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Haha! I'm loosing it lol. It's 12 and -12 isn't it? I run a 12v fan with a similar cable.


I haven't measured in a while but pretty sure floppy connector is +12V-ground-ground-+5V. I run the fan in my A500 off that at 5V so it'll be quieter. I don't need it to move a whole cyclone worth of air, lol. ;)
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Re: Overclock ACA620 to 25mhz
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2015, 08:13:48 PM »
The floppy and hdd in the amigas are 5 and 12volt, but those aren't the colours.

Amiga decided to be different (it was probably before the standard was in place) so if you're wiring things up make sure the voltages are correct.
 

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Re: Overclock ACA620 to 25mhz
« Reply #29 from previous page: December 05, 2015, 08:50:12 PM »
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The floppy and hdd in the amigas are 5 and 12volt, but those aren't the colours.

Amiga decided to be different (it was probably before the standard was in place) so if you're wiring things up make sure the voltages are correct.


Brown is 12v and red is 5v I dare say... :angry: