Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology

[eliyahu]

@ppcamiga1

ok. thanks for giving us such an excellent demonstration of trolling. nicely done. see you in a few days.

-- eliyahu

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

@ppcamiga1

ok. thanks for giving us such an excellent demonstration of trolling. nicely done. see you in a few days.

[Thorham]

Coding for the 68K family is still a lot of fun for me.
AND its the last processor I bothered to learn to write assembly code on.
It is really quite elegant.

One of the best things Motorola ever created.

+1

[number6]

@thread

Just a matter of general curiosity, once again based on my trying to apply what I believe to be "logic" to the situation...

Considering:

(1)Amistore is the principal source of income for s/w

Why is there not a push to install Amistore as part of default install for the OS?

#6

[dschallock]

@thread

Just a matter of general curiosity, once again based on my trying to apply what I believe to be "logic" to the situation...

Considering:

(1)Amistore is the principal source of income for s/w

Why is there not a push to install Amistore as part of default install for the OS?

#6

Is there any plans to bring Amistore to classic 68k?  A-eon holds several classic licenses that I would think people would still buy right away if available.

[eliyahu]

@number6

indeed. i asked this to ssolie at amiwest myself. i hope A-EON and hyperion can work something out. we already have a terrific update system integrated into the default install. it'd be wonderful to also be able to go to the 'Workbench' menu and select 'Store...' as well. at least IMO.

@dschallock

if i recall correctly matthew has been working on an AOS3 build of amistore for some time. where exactly it is in terms of status, i have no idea.

-- eliyahu

[kamelito]

@number6

indeed. i asked this to ssolie at amiwest myself. i hope A-EON and hyperion can work something out. we already have a terrific update system integrated into the default install. it'd be wonderful to also be able to go to the 'Workbench' menu and select 'Store...' as well. at least IMO.

@dschallock

if i recall correctly matthew has been working on an AOS3 build of amistore for some time. where exactly it is in terms of status, i have no idea.

-- eliyahu

Of all Classics users how many do have Internet on their system? It is good for UAE but for classics some sort of gateway should be found or they should bundle it with an Ethernet board.
Kamelito

[dschallock]

Of all Classics users how many do have Internet on their system? It is good for UAE but for classics some sort of gateway should be found or they should bundle it with an Ethernet board.
Kamelito

Just got the Xsurf100 from amigakit bundled with easynet pro.  Works flawlessly.

[nicholas]

@thread

Just a matter of general curiosity, once again based on my trying to apply what I believe to be "logic" to the situation...

Considering:

(1)Amistore is the principal source of income for s/w

Why is there not a push to install Amistore as part of default install for the OS?

#6

A-Eon don't own the OS.

If I owned the OS would only consider providing it as part of the default install if A-Eon paid me a huge up front sum, which would reccur yearly and also a minimum of a 60/40 split of any profits from sales. The 60% being my cut.

Wouldn't you?

[OlafS3]

A-Eon don't own the OS.

If I owned the OS would only consider providing it as part of the default install if A-Eon paid me a huge up front sum, which would reccur yearly and also a minimum of a 60/40 split of any profits from sales. The 60% being my cut.

Wouldn't you?

Why should A-eon pay a huge sum?

A-eon develops and sells the hardware and pays for the OS licenses. Normally they can simply preinstall the OS and the store with the hardware. The same for Acube. You think of Apple but Apple both develops and sells hardware and the OS.

[fjudde]

@thread
Considering:

(1)Amistore is the principal source of income for s/w

Why is there not a push to install Amistore as part of default install for the OS?

#6

Maybe it's because Amistore is not considered to be ready for a release yet?

We are pleased to confirm that the first Release Candidate 1 is now available for public download here. Important Note: this software is still beta status and may contain some bugs.

http://www.amistore.net/

[nicholas]

Why should A-eon pay a huge sum?

A-eon develops and sells the hardware and pays for the OS licenses. Normally they can simply preinstall the OS and the store with the hardware. The same for Acube. You think of Apple but Apple both develops and sells hardware and the OS.

A-Eon pre-installing it on any hardware they sell is a custom install. A default install is what you get after installing the OS from Hyperion's installation media.

[fjudde]

A-Eon don't own the OS.

If I owned the OS would only consider providing it as part of the default install if A-Eon paid me a huge up front sum, which would reccur yearly and also a minimum of a 60/40 split of any profits from sales. The 60% being my cut.

Wouldn't you?

No, I would not!

Hyperion/OS4 And A-EON/Acube live in symbiosis with each other. If software (OS4) is sold hardware is sold (Exception: OS4 Classic and Pegasos 2). If Hardware is sold software (OS4) is sold.

You could say Win-Win situation. But I don't think there is any profit. So it's more like trying to keep the loss to a minimum.

And of-course they need us to buy there stuff ;-)


Edit: Acube might have the embedded market to fall back on? I don't know.
Edit2: Forgot Pegasos 2

[number6]

A-Eon don't own the OS.

If I owned the OS would only consider providing it as part of the default install if A-Eon paid me a huge up front sum, which would reccur yearly and also a minimum of a 60/40 split of any profits from sales. The 60% being my cut.

Wouldn't you?

While I completely understand your point, I think the argument also exists about applications being a big part of the user experience that they associate with the OS. Would not releasing an operating system while also pointing out that apps exist for said operating system be good PR for Hyperion?
I've heard the term symbiotic before in relation to this, but perhaps that's not how Hyperion sees it. Perhaps you're correct and they see it as infringement, and something for which they should be compensated. *shrug*

#6

[nicholas]

No, I would not!

Hyperion/OS4 And A-EON/Acube live in symbiosis with each other. If software (OS4) is sold hardware is sold (Exception: OS4 Classic and Pegasos 2). If Hardware is sold software (OS4) is sold.

You could say Win-Win situation. But I don't think there is any profit. So it's more like trying to keep the loss to a minimum.

And of-course they need us to buy there stuff ;-)


Edit: Acube might have the embedded market to fall back on? I don't know.
Edit2: Forgot Pegasos 2

So Hyperion should force their customers to install software written by a third party with no financial recompense for Hyperion purely so this third party can make money from Hyperions customers?

You'd better write to Ben Hermans immediately pointing out the error of his ways! :roflmao:

[nicholas]

While I completely understand your point, I think the argument also exists about applications being a big part of the user experience that they associate with the OS. Would not releasing an operating system while also pointing out that apps exist for said operating system be good PR for Hyperion?
I've heard the term symbiotic before in relation to this, but perhaps that's not how Hyperion sees it. Perhaps you're correct and they see it as infringement, and something for which they should be compensated. *shrug*

#6

Money talks and Hyperion is running a business afterall.  Perhaps there will be an offical AmigaStore app included by default in a future release of OS4 that is run by Hyperion for its own profit?