Issues with startup

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

How do I run SetPatch ? I'm in the shell window now
Sorry if I'm not up to speed on this as it's been years since I did any stuff in this area of the Amiga

Just type setpatch ? into the shell. You've probably figured that out by now, already. Be prepared to hit Ctrl+C to break out of it, unless you actually want to run it.

If you go ahead and run it without the QUIET option, it will show you a list of everything it's patching (although obviously in this case, it might crash).

It might also help to type version c:setpatch to know what version you're running.

[tonyvdb]

This is what I see when running SetPatch
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/3551/1_image.jpg
It seems to freeze after that.

It's Version 44.16

This is the first page of the Startup sequence if that helps at all
Note that I still have SetPatch bypassed
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/3551/2_image.jpg

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I don't know if it will help at all, but I have SetPatch 44.38 on my system.  Shoot me your email address and I'll send you a copy to try.  You're going to want to rename your old one as "setpatch.old" or something, first, so you don't overwrite it.  

[tonyvdb]

PM sent.

Odd, there already is an SetPatch-old file?
Things that make you go Hmmmmm

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

PM sent

Where is the SetPatch file stored so I can edit the name.

There you go, just sent you two versions. 44.38 and 44.39.  I don't remember what 44.39 was, I think it had a slight modification to support a newer graphics.library, or something, but for some reason I was still using 44.38 and my system is 100% stable. Your mileage may vary.

SetPatch is stored in SYS:C directory

[tonyvdb]

Well, that's a no go for either file.
.39 gave me a recoverable failure but then did not go farther and .38 does the same thing as before, just a black screen
Thanks for trying anyhow
Clearly it is the SetPatch file that's the issue. Not sure what else to try?

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Drat.  SetPatch is trying to activate something that is not working.  Wait, this is in a 4000?  I vaguely, vaguely seem to recall someone else having a similar problem a few years ago.  Their system was crashing at SetPatch.  That's because SetPatch was trying to activate the AGA graphics routines, and something in the chipset on their motherboard had failed.  The system worked, just not "the AGA part".  This seems probable for you, as well.  It's unlikely the command itself is bad, what whatever component it's trying to activate has issues.

Afraid I'm not going to be of much help beyond this, try searching the forums or wait for someone else to come along who can help you fine-tune the SetPatch command to see where it's failing?

One last thought - try removing all expansion cards and see if that makes a difference?

[tonyvdb]

Yup, it's a 4000d
I'll give that a try I guess. Worst case I try doing a full reinstall on a new hard drive and transfer over the files after.
Thanks so much for trying

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Yup, it's a 4000d
I'll give that a try I guess. Worst case I try doing a full reinstall on a new hard drive and transfer over the files after.
Thanks so much for trying

You can try it, but I think you might have a hardware problem.  Try this again, hold down both mouse buttons to boot with no startup-sequence, and execute nothing but the SetPatch command.  You get a crash then?  I don't know if a "full reinstall" is going to help you.  Here's a screenshot of mine, you can see SetPatch touches on a lot of different hardware registers:

[tonyvdb]

The moment I hit enter after typing SetPatch it freezes

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Try these alternate ways of running SetPatch listed in post #2 and #3 of this thread:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23107

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Also try C:SetPatch NOAGA

Edit: just saw your earlier note.  Did you try your "SetPatch-old" file?

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Last dumb question - you mentioned this system has been in storage for a while.  Was there any battery leakage?  Has battery been removed already?

[tonyvdb]

SetPatch-0ld file still fails the same way.
I removed the battery years ago and replaced it with a rechargeable coin battery.

Tonight I will try running SetPatch with Nocash and the others you mention and see what happens.

This coming weekend I will probably take all the Video Toaster stuff out as well as the GVP SCSI card I have and see if that changes anything

Also remember Im still trying to get OS3.1 working. I have not ventured into a fresh instal of 3.9

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Is your ROM 3.1?

Here's one more to try.  Couldn't hurt, right?  http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/SetPatch_43.6b

[Thomas]

Here's one more to try.  Couldn't hurt, right?  http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/SetPatch_43.6b

It can hurt. Version 43 and below don't load the ROM update.