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Re: SYSINFO - A3000 Reporting Slow?
« Reply #14 from previous page: November 28, 2014, 07:22:35 PM »
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Now, now; we can pick on the A3000 until the cows come home: I mean the location of the 2 identical 25-pin ports together, the flimsy ZIP RAM, the requirement to have the daughter board in to boot, Barrel NiCD battery, the D800 debaucle, the need for the INT2 jumper wire.  I mean you can't just say that bleeding hands and fingers from the razor sharp sheet metal is its only issue.


I love the 3000, it was the fastest design memory wise of all the big boxes(well 3000t was as good), but lets also not forget the ridiculous rom tower for rev 7 boards also :)
ok looking case but not my favorite to work on by a long shot. the 4000 case was not as pretty but way more practicle.
 

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Re: SYSINFO - A3000 Reporting Slow?
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2014, 08:10:07 PM »
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My A3K is a rev 6.1 25MHz with 16MB page mode ram and he 2MB of chip; I have a DENEB and a 4GB SCSI drive installed.

SYSINFO V4 reports me as being .87 as fast as a stock A3K.

Can anyone provide insight as to why I'm not at least a 1.0 of a stock A3K?
I had this same problem once with my 3000, If I remember right it was something to do with the MMU burst modes I had turning on during the start up.  I know that don't make sense as to why the CPU would be reporting slow speeds and it did not make any sense to me at the time either, but After turning it off things went back to normal.  There could of been something else going on here as well because I tried multiple things to fix this, but It did eventually resolve itself.  I have also found over the years that results vary depending on what version of sysinfo you are using.
 

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Re: SYSINFO - A3000 Reporting Slow?
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2014, 09:02:35 PM »
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Yes thats why it ended up with crappy ide also. The memory bottle neck was due to them taking much of the 3000's PAL chips and combining them into the 'bridgette" chip,reducing chip count and saving money since there was almost no budget. Unfortunately brigette was slower than they wanted.
this bottle neck is not that big a deal since the motherboard only holds 16Mb,getting any quality accelerator bypasses the problem.
There were some guys who managed to hack 64M B onboard the 4000's stock simm slots,bu i could never get the guys who did the hack give me the info.
Remember one thing a stock 4000 with slow ram still blows a stock 1200 out of the water :)
At least the A4000 wasn't as crippled as the poor Atari Falcon with the 030 stuck on a 16bit Atari ST bus... That seriously must have be a quick work up design, which ended up in the final product due to lack of funds!?

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Re: SYSINFO - A3000 Reporting Slow?
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2014, 09:13:10 PM »
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I had this same problem once with my 3000, If I remember right it was something to do with the MMU burst modes I had turning on during the start up.  I know that don't make sense as to why the CPU would be reporting slow speeds and it did not make any sense to me at the time either, but After turning it off things went back to normal.  There could of been something else going on here as well because I tried multiple things to fix this, but It did eventually resolve itself.  I have also found over the years that results vary depending on what version of sysinfo you are using.

the rev6.1 board A3000's were never meant to be sold to consumers, they were sent to dealers for demo's but since they were selling well, i'm sure the dealers had no trouble selling them. I wonder what his ramsey/dmac chip revisions are?
 

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Re: SYSINFO - A3000 Reporting Slow?
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2014, 11:11:52 PM »
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I love the 3000, it was the fastest design memory wise of all the big boxes(well 3000t was as good), but lets also not forget the ridiculous rom tower for rev 7 boards also :)
ok looking case but not my favorite to work on by a long shot. the 4000 case was not as pretty but way more practicle.


I love both the 3000 and 4000.  Each have their advantages...  

I actually prefer working on the 3000D over the 4000D.  I think I may be in the minority here. :)
 

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Re: SYSINFO - A3000 Reporting Slow?
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2014, 01:32:38 AM »
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the rev6.1 board A3000's were never meant to be sold to consumers, they were sent to dealers for demo's but since they were selling well, i'm sure the dealers had no trouble selling them. I wonder what his ramsey/dmac chip revisions are?


Serial number is 00199 :)

Ramsey 4, DMAC 4.

I just landed a 9/03 system and this one will be retired to SPARE duty.
 

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Re: SYSINFO - A3000 Reporting Slow?
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2014, 01:51:39 AM »
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Serial number is 00199 :)

Ramsey 4, DMAC 4.

I just landed a 9/03 system and this one will be retired to SPARE duty.

excellent revision,the best actually :) check the d800 diode before you install it, many are shorted and or blown (its the temrination power diode)
 

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Re: SYSINFO - A3000 Reporting Slow?
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2014, 02:49:49 AM »
Will do.. it should be fine the previous owner sent me pics of it running and recently replaced the battery as well.  Also has new GALS and a 3640.

Will change that battery out for a coin though...