Writing a CV/Resumé

[uncharted]

KennyR wrote:

I wasn't. I haven't been a member of any club or organisation. In fact I haven't been very active at all. ;-)

Aren't you a member of AmigaZeux?  Is that not an organisation (a computer club of sorts?).  Don't you also program? There's something else you can shove on. Can you see where I'm going with this?

I'm pretty sure I don't have Asperger's. In fact, I'm not even convinced a such a condition exists.

eeek! Don't let Mrs. Uncharted hear you say that :-o  The problem is that that term is often misused to descibe people who don't have a condition at all.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

KennyR wrote:
HOW DO YOU SEE YOURSELF?

In the following section please write down briefly what qualities you consider yourself to have, what achievements or successes you have attained, what your work outlook or ethics are and what your objectives or aims are for the future (work related). This will be the first section of your CV and a potential selling point to your prospective employer.[/b]

Yes, this is a sales-manager CV, not a chemistry-graduate CV :lol:
They only only only want to know in short what you're capable of and the studies you did (and most important, WHERE you did these studies). This isn't the appropriate CV for you.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

KennyR wrote:
Asperger's isn't universally accepted by psychologists. Some believe that most diagnoses are wrong, and actually shyness and social alienation are to blame for the symptoms. If you want social alienation there's no better way to go about it than being smarter than most of your peers, and as a result there is this mysticism around seemingly ultra-intelligent people who have social problems. More likely, they have social problems because they were isolated for being smart, and their answer to this is to hit the books instead of socialise and become even more smart and even more socially unskilled.

KennyR, you've got a chemistry graduate, not a psychological graduate. Sorry to violate Aorg's rules, but you do not have any clue what you're talking about.
I mean, there are serious issues considering Asperger's, both mental as well as physical. They can very exactly pinpoint such. It has nothing to do with nurturing.

[KennyR]

Yes, this is a sales-manager CV, not a chemistry-graduate CV

No, it's a generic CV. This is how they're all done here. If I wanted a job as a refuse collector I'd still have to answer this one.

[KennyR]

@uncharted

AmigaZeux is an IRC channel. It's also user-group of sorts, but I don't see how it puts a positive spin on me for the chemistry industry being part of it. I wish it did.

And no, I don't code. I never really could. Even after spending four years in a Computing course.

About aspergers, I think that has become a medical buzzword to be thrown around whenever some kid doesn't seem to conform to the norm. I'm always mistrustful of buzzwords, or of people who are quick to label non-conformance as "disease".

[Speelgoedmannetje]

@KennyR
First you ask us about CV's and I share my little experience with you and you disagree with it. Next you say a psychological disorder wich thousands of psychologists are researching simply does not exists.

Strange person you are indeed.

[KennyR]

No offence Eyso, but you've just told me what everyone else has - and what everyone says seems to always contradict what everyone else says. Nothing helps. I'm still sitting with a sterile list of qualifications with my name on it I call a CV, and no closer ever to finishing. I guess it is just my fault for being such a negative assh*le and I really am unemployable.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

You're no asshole, think about that first.
But I think it'd be indeed a good idea to change your negative attitude into a positive attitude. Especially when it comes to interviews. It'd be a good idea to be open minded too.

Rather see this as advice, not as criticism.

Maybe you should make that 10 papers sized report about yourself, and then make headlines and put those headlines in your CV.
Hope this helps.

[mikeymike]

KennyR, stick your CV online, just snip off or fake unnecessary (for us to read) personal details.

Or even stick your CV online like I do anyway.  The only thing I don't have on there is my address, mainly because I would be willing to move for the job anyway.

[uncharted]

KennyR wrote:
@uncharted

AmigaZeux is an IRC channel. It's also user-group of sorts, but I don't see how it puts a positive spin on me for the chemistry industry being part of it. I wish it did.

I thought it'd add an extra dimension, with these things you have to grab anything you can and hype it up.

And no, I don't code. I never really could. Even after spending four years in a Computing course.

My mistake, I must of got you mixed up with someone else.

[KennyR]

@Mikeymike

I can compress my CV into a few sentences, if you'd like.

Qualifications: BSc. (Hons) Chemistry with IT and Instrumentation at 2:2 grade, graduated in Autumn 2003. University Certificate in Computer Studies. 6 Highers (3 Cs, 4 Bs), 8 Standard Grades.

Schools: Wishaw High School (1990-1992), Clyde Valley High School (1992-1996), Glasgow Caledonian University (1996-2003).

Work History: none.

References/referees: none.

Personal details: I'm very literate and...*grind* *tax brain* *groan*...I give up.


That's basically it. On a sheet of A4 this looks unbelievably pathetic. If I leave out the personal details I might as well not even send it to anyone. It would be useless.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

@KennyR
Can you not write down in an informal way for yourself what you've been doing past years as a hobby (wich does not necesarily be important to your employer) and what you like and what you like to do in the future and so?

[KennyR]

Can you not write down in an informal way for yourself what you've been doing past years as a hobby (wich does not necesarily be important to your employer) and what you like and what you like to do in the future and so?

I can, but it's not flattering.

[mikeymike]

Hobbies, interests, Any extra-curricular stuff you've done (Air/Army cadets that sort of thing).

If you're going for an IT job, talk about your skills.  I have a 'summary of my skills' section of my CV that covers other little bits of info not covered by my employment history (without digressing).

Everyone has a time of their CV looking very small.  Just be glad your CV isn't overly large and you're trying to work out what not to include.  That's more difficult than making as much as possible out of very little, believe me :-)

Job hunting is hard work.  One thing you should take into account for the future - don't burn bridges.  Keep as many friendly acquaintances as possible, because they may be able to recommend you for a job in the future.

[adz]

My theory is not to lie, but be generous with the truth. Thats the best advice I can offer, my CV kinda sucks, but it landed me my current job...err career so it can't be all bad.

References/referees: none.

What do you mean none, what about a University professor/lecturer, close family? Have you had a job in the past? If so, why not get a reference from them, hell, give em my details, tell em you spent a year in Australia working for me :-D

[T_Bone]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

Sorry to violate Aorg's rules, but you do not have any clue what you're talking about.

AAaaaaahhhhhh!!!! Anyone else get chills up their spine when he said that? I'm seeing DoomMasters everywhere!  :lol: