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Re: Surface 3 - New direction, higher prices aimed at corperate customers and crappy
« Reply #134 from previous page: May 31, 2014, 10:26:13 AM »
And every person in the MS related Press areas still refers to it as "Metro" behind closed doors.  Some call it Windows Store Apps, some say "Modern UI".  Call it what you like.  I call the brick a brack "formerly known as Metro" simply "Legoland Design School".  

Even the most fervent MS press folks like MJ Foley, Ed Bott, and our own illustrious ex Amigan, Paul Thurrott use the Metro term in passing still.  You can gild a turd, but I can still smell the stink :)  But let's not get into semantics, it's just a name.

It (Metro) indeed was full, blazing official term at one time, but they hit a lawsuit snag on it.
 

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This reminds me of the old Windows Vista days when it was almost universally hated but had a few defenders. MS solved the Vista problem by killing it and replacing with something better. I never bought or used Vista and I'll never buy or use Win8.

Actually, they just kept polishing it and released the results as Win7 (which seems to be much better received).
I may buy Win8.1 now that I have the Start button back.
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Microsoft hasn't used the word "metro" in a couple years, and then only as a code name, never officially. The new apps are Windows Store Apps.

It was still the official name after RTM but it changed before GA.
 
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/windowsappdev/archive/2012/08/06/building-your-own-windows-runtime-components-to-deliver-great-metro-style-apps.aspx
 
Apparently an internal memo said they had to change it because of a trademark while the public statement was it was never meant to be an official name. This appears to have been a surprise to the majority of Microsoft employees who appear to have been under a different impression.
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Windows 95 was buggy until more programs were written for it. The other complaint was that you needed 4MB of memory to run it.
I didn't like Windows 98 because it integrated Internet Explorer with everything. Plus you needed 32MB to run it. Windows 98 may have been more stable.

I like Linux because you can get a small install and there are versions that are point and click except for preparing the hard drive.
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And every person in the MS related Press areas still refers to it as "Metro" behind closed doors.  Some call it Windows Store Apps, some say "Modern UI".  Call it what you like.  I call the brick a brack "formerly known as Metro" simply "Legoland Design School".  

Even the most fervent MS press folks like MJ Foley, Ed Bott, and our own illustrious ex Amigan, Paul Thurrott use the Metro term in passing still.  You can gild a turd, but I can still smell the stink :)  But let's not get into semantics, it's just a name.

It (Metro) indeed was full, blazing official term at one time, but they hit a lawsuit snag on it.

I call it 1996 AOL wants their interface back.

http://obamapacman.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/AOL-1996-vs.-Microsoft-Windows-8.jpg
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Cant we go back to win95? No more metro junk.
 

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Well the desktop is again the centre of Windows 8.1 function.  Really the difference between 7 and  8.1 is a slight difference in how the Windows ball (called Start a decade ago) functions. Rather than flop up it opens a tiled display....
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I call it 1996 AOL wants their interface back.

AOL was hugely successful with non techies, I'm not surprised they want it back.
 
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Cant we go back to win95? No more metro junk.

No thank you.
After recently experimenting with a new Win98SE install, I decided I am very grateful for the newer, non-DOS, NT based OS'.
The whole registry concept really sucks, but the OS is much more stable and support of multi-tasking is more robust.

Now if ReactOS ever gets of the ground...
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Re: Surface 3 - New direction, higher prices and it's crappy
« Reply #144 on: June 02, 2014, 03:06:07 PM »
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Actually, they just kept polishing it and released the results as Win7 (which seems to be much better received).
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Agree, but Microsoft didn't stop the media from convincing people it was a totally new OS, and in some cases entertained the hype. It wasn't totally new. And it didn't have a "totally re-written Kernel" as one notable insider "Netted". Though they certainly cleared out the bloat and reworked some key performance issues. Media is noise to sell or noise to cut down. IT media doubly so.  It's conspiracy, or truth.  It's rarely balanced these days.

So I guess my only option is to drop Windows totally and move onto another OS, such as........?
Actually nothing comes to mind that I could use productively for what I do....  
Perhaps something will come out in 2015 that's "much better".  Hmm.. I wonder, and maybe it will be to rave and proclamation. What a nice surprise that will be.

@James2002; Yes Win 95, that's the way. Things were so much simpler then. InfoWorld would probably agree with you, but I'm not going there.

@Sysadmin; Perhaps you could fix the title of Amiga Org's most popular posting thread so it's at least literate.
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8.1 has a lot of stuff left over from Vista...
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Over 800 million iOS devices sold, no wonder MS no longer try's to complete with iPad. The MS Surface Tablet failed experiment will be over in the next two years or less just like Zune was.  

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It's too bad. The Surface pen interface works very well and is significantly less expensive than combining another system with a Wacom Cintiq, for example. (Edit: Assuming you have the right software installed, but it's software you'd have on your workstation anyway.)
 

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FYI

Adding a pressure sensitive pen to the iPad is $80-100 and it has more pressure levels then the pen included with Surface Pro 3. Even Surface Pro 2 has more pressure levels than 3.
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