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Offline Darrin

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Re: MiniMig+
« Reply #44 from previous page: April 14, 2014, 06:07:30 PM »
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whats the problem closing the case? i only kept my mediator 4k open as of late because constantly exchanging hardware for testing. any heat issues are easy to solve with a pci slot fan without any further mods.


I don't have heat issues, I'm just always poking around inside swapping cards/drives.
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Re: MiniMig+
« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2014, 06:41:37 PM »
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I don't have heat issues, I'm just always poking around inside swapping cards/drives.


Good news!! I am in the pre-order list of FPGA Replay! My setting include the entire S-Video, Composite Port, DVI Port and able to install any LED for my power and HD activity to my favorite casing of choosing!! That means I can order X500 and have the power LED on the X500 case turn on/off for the Amiga audio filter or it flashes if the Amiga core crashes hahahahahahah!!!!!
 

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Re: MiniMig+
« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2014, 06:45:55 PM »
The primary problem with the '060 card is the dwindling supply of decent quality processors.
At least PPCs are available.

I, for one, wouldn't mind a PPC supplemented Replay that could run OS4.
Performance would be much better than a PPC equipped legacy system and the additional compatibility brought to OS4 would be nice.

But, let's get the initial steps done first.
Mass production of the Replay.
Release of the '60 board.
And then whatever evolves after that.
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Re: MiniMig+
« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2014, 06:51:05 PM »
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The OpenGraphics project (OGP) is a nice thought but uses high end FPGA where the cost for chips and route-and-place tools is prohibitive. So it's in practice a no go solution. It's better to polish your knowledge in graphics and start from scratch. Do less, do the important and be confident that it's enough (less is more). Are all functions of the PS3 really needed? if not which one would be the most important ones?


Everything is of course a tradeoff. If one wants, PS3 graphics, as the person I replied to suggested, then one will pay for it. If one wants something relatively inexpensive, then one might not get PS3 level graphics. Especially in an FPGA, compared to Sony's custom ASIC. The overhead that makes an FPGA able to "be anything" will slow it down compared to the custom ASIC. Plus, Sony had a big team of specialists and a huge budget, as do Nvidia, AMD etc., compared to the people willing and able to work on such things for open-hardware, or even proprietary in our kind of market, so our results may differ from theirs from those things as well. :)
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Re: MiniMig+
« Reply #48 on: April 14, 2014, 08:24:39 PM »
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Everything is of course a tradeoff. If one wants, PS3 graphics, as the person I replied to suggested, then one will pay for it. If one wants something relatively inexpensive, then one might not get PS3 level graphics. Especially in an FPGA, compared to Sony's custom ASIC. The overhead that makes an FPGA able to "be anything" will slow it down compared to the custom ASIC. Plus, Sony had a big team of specialists and a huge budget, as do Nvidia, AMD etc., compared to the people willing and able to work on such things for open-hardware, or even proprietary in our kind of market, so our results may differ from theirs from those things as well. :)


Actually I am thinking of PPC to FPGA Replay is not a bad idea!! :D THIS WAY I do not have to worry about buying a NG hardware that cost me 10k for example...I can have OS 4.1 running in that adorable, tiny cute little squishy FPGA Replay Arcade hehehhe even if it cost 1000 dollars for the CPU only it is still affordable over say 3.3k for X1000!

:D I like this...now I want this FPGA Replay even more...it is truly the best toy ever!!

No need for NatAmi, no need for C-One, no need for MiniMig...this is what we want :D
 

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Re: MiniMig+
« Reply #49 on: April 14, 2014, 08:39:49 PM »
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Good news!! I am in the pre-order list of FPGA Replay! My setting include the entire S-Video, Composite Port, DVI Port and able to install any LED for my power and HD activity to my favorite casing of choosing!! That means I can order X500 and have the power LED on the X500 case turn on/off for the Amiga audio filter or it flashes if the Amiga core crashes hahahahahahah!!!!!


For the X500 case, make sure you order it with the USB keyboard connector and adapter.  My FPGA board is the old type with the PS-2 connector and I've got to return it to Mike for an update (or get another one) before I can use it properly in my X500 case.
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Re: MiniMig+
« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2014, 08:58:56 PM »
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For the X500 case, make sure you order it with the USB keyboard connector and adapter.  My FPGA board is the old type with the PS-2 connector and I've got to return it to Mike for an update (or get another one) before I can use it properly in my X500 case.


I think I will keep it with it's original case. The case is really tiny, cute,, adorable and have a good size fan :D :D. The X500 case is nice but it is TOO BIG...takes a lot of my table for nothing. The FPGA Replay is too small and I am not taking all the space of that case...not worth it.  I think my FPGA Replay will have PS/2 ports which is good for me! I can get an ps/2 keyboard and mouse from value village for like 6 bucks in total! Or I can just get the keyboard for 3 bucks and use my original Amiga mouse!

Like for example this is my default case: http://store.antec.com/productimages/Originals/root/ISK100_sbe.jpg look at that faaaaan :D :D :D :D :D :D What I will do is buy the loudest fan possible and install it in there Mmmmmmmmmmmm
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Re: MiniMig+
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2014, 03:23:52 PM »
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Everything is of course a tradeoff. If one wants, PS3 graphics, as the person I replied to suggested, then one will pay for it. If one wants something relatively inexpensive, then one might not get PS3 level graphics. Especially in an FPGA, compared to Sony's custom ASIC.

PS3 graphics are rendered by an NVidia chip, it also has a load of multi ghz cpu/math cores. Anyone who thinks they will be able to get anywhere near that on a cheap FPGA is deluded. You could just buy a PS3 and run Linux on it.
 
The best you can hope for is somewhere between PS1 & PS2 and that is still pushing it.
 

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Re: MiniMig+
« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2014, 03:59:12 PM »
If you could have a PowerPC it would cost $2000. Plus a year or two in the prototype phase. More likely.
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Re: MiniMig+
« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2014, 05:23:07 PM »
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If you could have a PowerPC it would cost $2000. Plus a year or two in the prototype phase. More likely.
ask Jens, he got all the phase 5 IP?


 dont think so, he got apollo ip afaik. p5 ip went to dce and is now lost as as the person in charge died. the question has been asked though even before and it was too expensive to consider.

ppc accelerators make no sense. please leave it out of discussion at least this one time.
 

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Re: MiniMig+
« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2014, 06:15:51 PM »
Wouldn't it be awesome to have PPC card on the FPGA Replay Arcade :D?
 

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Re: MiniMig+
« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2014, 06:54:42 PM »
No, a PPC expansion board for the FPGA Arcade Replay would suffer from the same drawbacks as all other PPC expansion cards and computers, over priced and under powered.
 

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Re: MiniMig+
« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2014, 06:56:57 PM »
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No, a PPC expansion board for the FPGA Arcade Replay would suffer from the same drawbacks as all other PPC expansion cards and computers, over priced and under powered.


I agree.  If anyone wants a PPC Amiga there are already plenty of viable NG options such as the Sam series....
 

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Re: MiniMig+
« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2014, 07:04:37 PM »
Well there is a port there for upgrading, what should you do with it?
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Re: MiniMig+
« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2014, 07:20:02 PM »
you might put a fast clocked cpu on there running 68k emu. prefferably not a ppc except there was a very good reason to do so.
 

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Re: MiniMig+
« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2014, 07:29:22 PM »
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Well there is a port there for upgrading, what should you do with it?

Or put rasberry like expansion or an x86 or something fun :D Or keep it there just for the giddy feeling you have an expansion port that is not used but it is there :)