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TurboFlyer 530
« on: December 07, 2013, 01:42:19 AM »
Elbox Computer is pleased to announce the new product for Amiga computers: TurboFlyer 530.

TurboFlyer 530 is a new 68030-based accelerator with integrated FastATA CF/SATA controller for Amiga 500/500+ and A2000 computers. TurboFlyer 530 it is an internal expansion, plugs into the 68000 processor socket.

Features:
• 68030 processor (with MMU) clocked at 40MHz
• 16MB of fast 32-bit DRAM memory on board

• Integrated FastATA CF/SATA controller:
- Fast transfer rate of up to 16.6MB/s
- Supports PIO-0, PIO-4 and PIO-5 modes
- Two buffered and terminated EIDE ports for four devices
- AllegroCDFS filesystem included
- LBA 48 support in the onboard BootROM (support of drives over 128GB)
- Automatically configured EIDE/CF/SATA/ATAPI devices
- Can boot from FAT16 and FAT32 formatted devices

• Includes custom expansion port for local hardware add-ons
• MapROM function (uses 1MB from 16MB of the on-board DRAM)
• Compatible with trapdoor Slow memory expansions (up to 1.8 MB)
• Compatible with Chip memory expansions
• Compatible with WHDLoad software

Pricing and availability:
TurboFlyer 530 will be on sale in February 2014 at the suggested retail price of 240 EUR (VAT excl.).

http://elbox.com/news_13_12_06.html
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Re: TurboFlyer 530
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2013, 12:23:15 PM »
This sure beats the cr*p out of the poor ACA500! :hammer:
It costs some money, but then you have the ultimate A500/A2000 expansion! :banana:
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Re: TurboFlyer 530
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2013, 01:14:19 PM »
Quote from: AmiDude;753973
This sure beats the cr*p out of the poor ACA500! :hammer:
It costs some money, but then you have the ultimate A500/A2000 expansion! :banana:


No so sure ...

With VAT we are talking close to 300Euro, the ACA500 is 80Euro, an ACA1232@40MHz can be had for 160Euro ->240Euro (incl. VAT).

- 2 CF slots instead of 2 IDE (IMO CF makes more sense these days)
- 128MB instead 16MB (and probraly faster too)
- Clockport
- propetery 16Bit port similar to the new XSurf
- 100% certainty of no RDB-trashing code

Only think negative is that the ACAs dangle outside the A500.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: TurboFlyer 530
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2013, 02:15:49 PM »
Quote from: Kronos;753974

Only think negative is that the ACAs dangle outside the A500.


My old A500 sits under the TV so that is a big negative. This is a nice surprise from Elbox. Expensive but if it can boot from a CF adaptor using 1.3 ROMs they might get my money.
                                                             
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Re: TurboFlyer 530
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2013, 02:43:31 PM »
Quote from: Kronos;753974
No so sure ...

With VAT we are talking close to 300Euro, the ACA500 is 80Euro, an ACA1232@40MHz can be had for 160Euro ->240Euro (incl. VAT).

- 2 CF slots instead of 2 IDE (IMO CF makes more sense these days)
- 128MB instead 16MB (and probraly faster too)
- Clockport
- propetery 16Bit port similar to the new XSurf
- 100% certainty of no RDB-trashing code

Only think negative is that the ACAs dangle outside the A500.


Not so sure of your comments either...

With this new accelerator you get:

-The fastest IDE interface around (FastATA)
-A non dangling hardware Frankenstein thing, that fortunately does not require case for safe usage (the ACA500 is such a beast)
-A MMU
-The fastest cd/dvd filesystem the amiga has, and the only one that supports UDF
-IDE interfaces which are way more flexible than CF slots (If you wish you can add a cdrom, a CF interface ($2 in ebay with shipping) or whatever other device IDE can accept)
-Big drive support built-in (no messing with the loadmodule mess)

Drawbacks:

-Elbox has an ethically questionable way of treating both customers and developers
-Price
-Less memory (but then there are not a lot of 68030 applications that take advantage of more than 16MB on an Amiga with OCS/ECS chipset).

It is good to have much more options for the A500. I remember not so long ago when a GVP530 ended up like $1000 on ebay!
 

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Re: TurboFlyer 530
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2013, 05:01:17 PM »
Quote from: Gulliver;753977
Not so sure of your comments either...

With this new accelerator you get:

-The fastest IDE interface around (FastATA)
-A non dangling hardware Frankenstein thing, that fortunately does not require case for safe usage (the ACA500 is such a beast)
-A MMU
-The fastest cd/dvd filesystem the amiga has, and the only one that supports UDF
-IDE interfaces which are way more flexible than CF slots (If you wish you can add a cdrom, a CF interface ($2 in ebay with shipping) or whatever other device IDE can accept)
-Big drive support built-in (no messing with the loadmodule mess)

Drawbacks:

-Elbox has an ethically questionable way of treating both customers and developers
-Price
-Less memory (but then there are not a lot of 68030 applications that take advantage of more than 16MB on an Amiga with OCS/ECS chipset).

It is good to have much more options for the A500. I remember not so long ago when a GVP530 ended up like $1000 on ebay!


Two reasons why I hate ACA500 and which convinced me it is a waste of money:

1) No case for it
2) It is on the left side of the Amiga and not inside of it...meaning more space consumption and I do not have enough space in my table for that. The more hardware inside the case the better for me...as space is so important that I had to put my Amiga 500 inside the closet now because of space factor and Amiga 500 is huge compared to A600, MiniMig or FPGA Replay, etc)
 

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Re: TurboFlyer 530
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2013, 06:04:16 PM »
Quote from: Kronos;753974
No so sure ...

With VAT we are talking close to 300Euro, the ACA500 is 80Euro, an ACA1232@40MHz can be had for 160Euro ->240Euro (incl. VAT).

- 2 CF slots instead of 2 IDE (IMO CF makes more sense these days)
- 128MB instead 16MB (and probraly faster too)
- Clockport
- propetery 16Bit port similar to the new XSurf
- 100% certainty of no RDB-trashing code

Only think negative is that the ACAs dangle outside the A500.

Luckily I do not have to pay VAT, and this will work in my A2000.

You will all have to excuse Kronos.

Not only does he usually see the cup as half empty, but often that half is sh*t.
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Re: TurboFlyer 530
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2013, 06:25:45 PM »
/me cuddles Iggy *love you too*

Also you want have to pay VAT an the ACAs either, so they would be even less expensive for you ....
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: TurboFlyer 530
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2013, 06:38:17 PM »
Quote from: Kronos;753984
/me cuddles Iggy *love you too*

Also you want have to pay VAT an the ACAs either, so they would be even less expensive for you ....

And I actually AM damned fond of you too, dude.
You have given me some GREAT advice.
That pointer on using the dual boot guideline to set up an unflashed SATA controller, worked like a charm.

But you're almost as negative as I am (however, no one beats me at being an intentional..., well I'm not allowed to say).

And, I don't ever want to discourage a MorphOS developer from posting.

I really miss Piru around here.

Also (finally) your point about the external expander makes sense.

It might just be cheaper for me to replace the A2000 with an A500 and use that.
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Re: TurboFlyer 530
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2013, 08:22:46 PM »
@mylovechild
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It might just be cheaper for me to replace the A2000 with an A500 and use that.


You do know that Jens has allready outlined plans for an ACA2000 (very similar features then the ACA500) ?
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
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Re: TurboFlyer 530
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2013, 10:35:19 PM »
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@mylovechild


You do know that Jens has allready outlined plans for an ACA2000 (very similar features then the ACA500) ?

Thanks, I can wait to invest more in legacy hardware, I have a G5 and a Radeon 9600 coming.
I play around with the Amiga, I can actually do things with MorphOS.
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Re: TurboFlyer 530
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2013, 01:14:51 PM »
Oli want pictures to drule over :)
 

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Re: TurboFlyer 530
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2013, 04:35:54 PM »
yes pictures would be great to have.
 

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Re: TurboFlyer 530
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2013, 09:40:13 PM »
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-The fastest cd/dvd filesystem the amiga has, and the only one that supports UDF


I've done tests AllegroCDFS and can not read UDF 1.50+, only DVD-Video (ISO + UDF 1.02), but as for me is the best, because you can see the CDDA as RAW PCM files and rip to disk.
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Re: TurboFlyer 530
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2013, 12:43:11 AM »
300 euros they are crazy for such money you can purchase an A1200+ 030 accelerator this is by far a better machine