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Offline Thorham

Re: New Amiga Joystick from AmigaKit.com
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2013, 01:10:37 AM »
This does need three buttons. Why is it that EVERY Amiga joystick ever made, including this one, has fewer buttons than what the hardware supports directly, without electronics or special code? I really don't understand that :(
 

Offline desiv

Re: New Amiga Joystick from AmigaKit.com
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2013, 01:57:45 AM »
How many Amiga games support 3 buttons?

desiv
Found this line googling around:
"I say that because I adapted a joystick years ago to use all three buttons, and some games as Turrican series can use them."
So it sounds like there might be more....
« Last Edit: December 11, 2013, 02:05:09 AM by desiv »
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Offline Thorham

Re: New Amiga Joystick from AmigaKit.com
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2013, 09:44:34 AM »
Quote from: desiv;754153
How many Amiga games support 3 buttons?

Not many. Why? Because Amiga joysticks started out as SINGLE button joysticks :(

How many games support two buttons?
Not many. Why? Because Amiga joysticks started out as SINGLE button joysticks :(

Amigas support three buttons, so joysticks need three buttons. Not two, not one, THREE.
 

Offline Lord Aga

Re: New Amiga Joystick from AmigaKit.com
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2013, 02:35:17 PM »
Yes, and the third one should be switchable from button 3 to UP :)
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: New Amiga Joystick from AmigaKit.com
« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2013, 06:32:07 PM »
Geeze you guys.  Maybe three buttons will be planned for Revision 2 of the device.  :smack:
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Offline desiv

Re: New Amiga Joystick from AmigaKit.com
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2013, 08:20:13 PM »
Quote from: Thorham;754166

How many games support two buttons?


From what I can tell, it looks like maybe around 60 games support 2 buttons..

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=57540

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Offline amigakit

Re: New Amiga Joystick from AmigaKit.com
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2013, 08:26:33 PM »
If we implement three button version, the case will need to be wider which will be extra cost and the extra button will also add to the price.  Would there be enough customers to justify the extra cost?
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Offline Thorham

Re: New Amiga Joystick from AmigaKit.com
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2013, 08:36:17 PM »
Quote from: amigakit;754196
If we implement three button version, the case will need to be wider

Judging by the photograph on page one it seems that with some proper positioning you can easily fit three buttons and make them easy to access. Might be the perspective, though.

Quote from: amigakit;754196
the extra button will also add to the price.

Were talking $1.40 here. Is that really a problem?
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: New Amiga Joystick from AmigaKit.com
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2013, 08:40:56 PM »
I honestly never even liked that kind of joystick, not that I've ever been that much of a gamer but my preferred controller has always been one like this:
 

 
Still, that darn thing looks so cool I think it would almost encourage people to pick it up and play games if I had it sitting out on my coffee table.  I'll probably buy one just for that, LOL. ;)
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Offline nicholas

Re: New Amiga Joystick from AmigaKit.com
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2013, 09:27:12 PM »
Quote from: amigakit;754196
If we implement three button version, the case will need to be wider which will be extra cost and the extra button will also add to the price.  Would there be enough customers to justify the extra cost?

 I'd buy one.
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Offline giZmo350

Re: New Amiga Joystick from AmigaKit.com
« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2013, 09:58:22 PM »
Quote from: nicholas;754201
I'd buy one.

Definitely, Me Too... especially if it had a cool AmigaKit logo on it! Gotta replace my Wico Bats as they are batted out!
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Offline buzz

Re: New Amiga Joystick from AmigaKit.com
« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2013, 10:38:44 PM »
It's a nice looking stick visually, but it will all be in the usage so I look forward to seeing some video tests/reviews. More buttons would be nice. Now if someone did an adapter for x-arcade sticks, that would be great, so I don't have to buy yet another joystick :)
 

Offline bbond007

Re: New Amiga Joystick from AmigaKit.com
« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2013, 12:34:47 AM »
I really like it.
 

Offline desiv

Re: New Amiga Joystick from AmigaKit.com
« Reply #43 on: December 12, 2013, 04:32:43 AM »
Actually, if there's enough room, I wonder if it might just be a good "after-market mod."
Shouldn't be to bad to have a template that can be created for drilling, then just adding the button and the wiring.
(Assuming that the cable has all 9 wires)
I can even imagine some people offering the mod as a service for a reasonable price.
Heck, maybe Amigakit could even offer it as an "option."
Would cost more than if it were produced that way, but who knows?

It's a bit spendy for me (notoriously cheap-skate here), but I'm considering it...
I do love a good arcade stick..  Never got the hang of joypads..
I actually made my own arcade stick back in the day (only 1 button tho, it was for my C64, although I put in a passthru 9-pin for dongles) and it was my favorite stick..

desiv
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Offline amigakit

Re: New Amiga Joystick from AmigaKit.com
« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2013, 12:05:53 PM »
Trevor playing with the new AmigaKit joystick at Pianeta Amiga show:

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