C 64 laptop original hardware

[ElPolloDiabl]

http://benheck.com/04-05-2009/commodore-64-original-hardware-laptop

I know some people make jokes about an Amiga laptop, but check the link. Somebody made a nice C64 laptop.

[Amiga_Nut]

http://benheck.com/04-05-2009/commodore-64-original-hardware-laptop

I know some people make jokes about an Amiga laptop, but check the link. Somebody made a nice C64 laptop.

1 It looks like a $1 toy not any Commodore
2. It's as much a laptop as the SX64 (ie it has no batteries so it isn't a laptop at all just an all-in-one inc screen)

I have asked many times on various forums how the hell do you get the required negative voltages needed to run an Amiga/C64 motherboard to a deafening....silence lol

The battery section is one of the most critical elements to turn 80s tech into 2000s tech that uses batteries, he hasn't solved any problems a kid in shop class can't solve IMO.

If you give me a 3D printer I can make you a laptop that isn't a real laptop (ie like that) out of the 1200 and C64, as bought on ebay on a daily basis, by tomorrow, the rest of it is trivial to be honest.

(his other stuff is great but this mod he did is a complete let down and underwhelming electronically speaking IMO)

[mechy]

1 It looks like a $1 toy not any Commodore
2. It's as much a laptop as the SX64 (ie it has no batteries so it isn't a laptop at all just an all-in-one inc screen)

I have asked many times on various forums how the hell do you get the required negative voltages needed to run an Amiga/C64 motherboard to a deafening....silence lol

The battery section is one of the most critical elements to turn 80s tech into 2000s tech that uses batteries, he hasn't solved any problems a kid in shop class can't solve IMO.

If you give me a 3D printer I can make you a laptop that isn't a real laptop (ie like that) out of the 1200 and C64, as bought on ebay on a daily basis, by tomorrow, the rest of it is trivial to be honest.

(his other stuff is great but this mod he did is a complete let down and underwhelming electronically speaking IMO)

So basically you have done nothing, and proceed to criticize this guys hard work. I think he did a very nice job on it, who cares if its a true laptop, its much more portable than a sx64 that weighs in around 30+ lbs not to mention it has a bigger screen. Its what he wanted, he didn't built it to please you.
its a fairly clean hack in my opinion.

The only way to get around the 9vac problem is to use PWM to simulate a 9vac sine wave. This old 5v technology eats batteries especially when the sid and vicII are cranking.


so you claim you can build one like it in 2 days, go for it then we can scrutinize yours

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

^^^ Seriously.  What's the matter with some people on this thread, have we all become cranky old men who just criticize things and complain all day?  Oh, wait...  :whack:

[curtis]

I have to agree with mechy and Mike on this one.

The project was to make a retro laptop-like C64.  Granted the power supply is not fully portable.  Still, I think the overall look and feel of the project is great.

To my way of thinking if Commodore had decided to do a C64 laptop, it would probably be pretty close to this project.

[Thorham]

It looks like a $1 toy

What an insult

I have asked many times on various forums how the hell do you get the required negative voltages needed to run an Amiga/C64 motherboard to a deafening....silence lol

That's REALLY easy, at least for an A1200. Use a PicoPSU (google it). It's a ridiculously small ATX PSU that uses a 12V DC input. All you need now is a 12V laptop battery. Of course, I have no clue about how much power an A1200 with accelerator uses (a modest '030 maybe). This might be doable.

[ajlwalker]

Can I just point out that 99% of the time I use my laptop plugged into the mains.

I was in the local library yesterday. Loads of kids using their laptops (Apple, Samsung, you name it) and ALL of them plugged into the mains.

So we all lug a power brick around with us, and a lot of us use it all the time.

This guy did an amazing job on that C64 and to say otherwise is churlish in the extreme.

[Plaz]

I have asked many times on various forums how the hell do you get the required negative voltages needed to run an Amiga/C64 motherboard to a deafening....silence

It's called a switching power supply, look it up. There's one in every modern laptop so it can create positive and negative voltages.

This C64 "lap top" slaps the snot out of SX64 in many ways. And I say that as an SX64 fan who's owned 2 of them. Oh and what's that currently connected to my 2012 laptop right now? ... right a power brick. Cheer up A.N.

Plaz

[Ral-Clan]

Commodore did attempt a portable/laptop (not a true C64 but still related to Commodore's 8-bit line in architecture).

http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ckb/secret/lcd.html

...if anyone wanted to do a true C64 laptop nowadays, I think it wouldn't be that hard using the circuit board of a C64DTV and one of those Jim Brain IEC to SD-flash card devices.  The C64 DTV is already made to use a PS/2 serial keyboard (cheap and plentiful) and run off three AA batteries for several hours.  The SD reader would of course replace a floppy drive.

Oh, someone's done it:

http://ocaoimh.ie/2009/04/07/the-new-commodore-64-laptop/

[Amiga_Nut]

So basically you have done nothing, and proceed to criticize this guys hard work. I think he did a very nice job on it, who cares if its a true laptop, its much more portable than a sx64 that weighs in around 30+ lbs not to mention it has a bigger screen. Its what he wanted, he didn't built it to please you.
its a fairly clean hack in my opinion.

The only way to get around the 9vac problem is to use PWM to simulate a 9vac sine wave. This old 5v technology eats batteries especially when the sid and vicII are cranking.


so you claim you can build one like it in 2 days, go for it then we can scrutinize yours

The negative voltages are the problem as I always said, I also said all his other stuff is great it's not a jibe at Ben, and yes if you give me a 3D printer capable of printing something as wide as an A1200 I will hand you a case in 24 hours....the 0ther 24 hours is to print the custom lids for a 64C and A1200

[Djole]

The negative voltages are the problem as I always said, I also said all his other stuff is great it's not a jibe at Ben, and yes if you give me a 3D printer capable of printing something as wide as an A1200 I will hand you a case in 24 hours....the 0ther 24 hours is to print the custom lids for a 64C and A1200

I missed the part where some1 gave this guy anything. Please show us your mighty work without asking people to give you stuff.

[Thorham]

The negative voltages are the problem as I always said

Sure they are :rolleyes:

[Ral-Clan]

...yes if you give me a 3D printer capable of printing something as wide as an A1200 I will hand you a case in 24 hours....the 0ther 24 hours is to print the custom lids for a 64C and A1200

If a person has a 3D printer they can basically "make" anything. Yes, one has to draft the design, but so did Ben Heck.

The difference is that after drafting, Ben then proceeded to make all this with his own hands (yes, I know the parts were roughed out on a milling machine).

I wouldn't dare draw comparisons between, for instance, a skilled woodworker or jeweller and someone who prints out a replica of the wooden sculpture or jewellery on a 3D printer.

So, as for Ben's C64 laptop, I'm impressed.

[Jope]

I have asked many times on various forums how the hell do you get the required negative voltages needed to run an Amiga/C64 motherboard to a deafening....silence lol

The C-64 and C-128 run on +5VDC and 9VAC. No negative voltages needed, so what's the problem?

For the Amiga 500/600/1200 you need 0.1A of -12VDC in addition to +5VDC and +12VDC.

If you really insist on using a power supply that only supplies positive voltages, this seems to be a good building block for a -12VDC voltage source:
http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/ptn04050a.pdf

I guess I swallowed the hook.

[salax54]

and yes if you give me a 3D printer capable of printing something as wide as an A1200 I will hand you a case in 24 hours....the 0ther 24 hours is to print the custom lids for a 64C and A1200

Not necessarilly! An A1200 can be literally cut down in width to fit in an A600 case. No, that's no joke, and it's already been done. So that's not the problem. User Jimbob from Amibay has proven so:



And here's his thread: http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=570

Nothing's impossible. I always thought of having a SAM mobo and turning it into a good-looking laptop, but have found no donors..
Don't rush into saying i'm just 'all talk and no play', i'm proud to have built a portable A600 meself:

Yes, it's feasible. Took me more than a grand of Euros, but it was well worth it. http://www.amigahellas.gr/showthread.php?5166-A600-GRL-project
I think i mentioned this A600 sometime ago, but just in case...