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G4 rumor
« on: December 22, 2002, 02:17:40 PM »
I found this on a macpage.

And before somone asks, no it's probably not reliable. But if it is...
 

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Re: G4 rumor
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2002, 02:38:56 PM »
Due to the company wide NDA I'm under I signed as an inclusion to my contract, I have to be careful what I say:

I can say however, that we had a visit from the Motorola reps, with the basis of thier presentation being a powerpoint slide show containing the information in that .pdf.... perhaps I shouldn't say more.

But an assumption can be made that the information in that .pdf is "not wrong".

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Re: G4 rumor
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2002, 02:47:33 PM »
Interesting :-D
 

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Re: G4 rumor
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2002, 03:32:40 PM »
It almost seems like Apple is getting some of the predated MPC7457 'L' Spec in their latest Power Macs running at 1.25 GHz.  The weird thing is Apple is not even listed as a vendor on page 5.  Well I can imagine we'll find out exactly what Motorola is up to soon enough!
 

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Re: G4 rumor
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2002, 05:02:11 PM »
Sigh.. oh well it's back to hoping and dreaming then.

Hmm... haven't I been there before? ;-)
 

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Re: G4 rumor
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2002, 05:21:53 PM »
Hmmm.  I was more interested in the MPC7451/55/57 Pin compatible @ 2+ GHz

That sounds like a nice upgrade for AmigaOne boards in the future.  And I must say I'm not completely sure what the G4+ is all about.
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Re: G4 rumor
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2002, 05:28:36 PM »
They should finally suport DDR.
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Re: G4 rumor
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2002, 06:21:19 PM »
I read something about this somewhere else... can't remember where, but the gist of it was that the G4+ should have been the G5, but they decided to scrap RD and just improve on the present design instead.  

This is nothing new. in the x86 world, they've been doing it for years.  If you look at it logically though, this is the clearly the easiest transition into 64 bit PPC planned by IBM.

a 2.4 ghz G4 would definately put PPC back in the game.. if it were here NOW.  IBM and Motorola need to step things up if they plan to stay in the CPU market.
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Re: G4 rumor
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2002, 07:28:13 PM »
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Re: G4 rumor
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2002, 07:56:59 PM »
This sounds pretty interesting.

Also take a look at the list with reference hardware/chipset design companies.

http://www.artismicro.com/index.html (with board names like A-3000, A-5000 etc. :-)

Marwell (couldn't find a website).

http://www.plxtech.com/

Didn't see MAI there, which surprised me a bit.
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Re: G4 rumor
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2002, 08:16:18 PM »
As I understand it, the 5th Generation of PowerPC ("G5") will have a different core archictecture to the previous Generations. In English that means code for PPC isn't going to run on G5 Cores. They need new compilers etc - look out for the term e500...

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Re: G4 rumor
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2002, 09:45:12 PM »
Here is the website of Marwell Semiconductor:
(Gigabit Switch IC).

Marwell Semiconductor

I saw the same document from Motorola website.
Unfortunately I cann't find it now. Perhaps Motorola pull the "confidential" document from their website.
The result of embedded benchmark is correct.

http://e-www.motorola.com/brdata/PDFDB/docs/PPCSALESFACT.pdf
 

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Re: G4 rumor
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2002, 10:02:26 PM »
>MAI Logic not present

Because the main target of the CPU is "Network IC" vendors, and MAI Logic only create chipset for Desktop computers, not Network equipments.
I am afraid that the future G4+ (or 7470), will be targeted at embedded / Network applications, not desktop.

Another link (see October 30, 2002 rumor):

Mac OS Rumors

From DSLreports.com:

DSLReports.com

If the document is a fake, some hackers must be penetrating Motorola website and post the fake document on their website.
 

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Re: G4 rumor
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2002, 10:05:19 PM »
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MiniBobF wrote:
As I understand it, the 5th Generation of PowerPC ("G5") will have a different core archictecture to the previous Generations. In English that means code for PPC isn't going to run on G5 Cores. They need new compilers etc - look out for the term e500...

Neil Thomas, AKA MiniBobF


That sucks!
Just as us Amigans are getting our G3s and G4s, the G5 has to come along and ruin everything!
Just as we were all catching up with the latest technology for our Amigas, this happens!

Arghh! :-x
 

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Re: G4 rumor
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2002, 10:14:42 PM »
BTW, that Mac page you gave sucked!
Nowhere near as good as Amiga.org! :-D