Regarding the naming of new A-eon systems

[spirantho]

In actual fact, the Amiga has less claim to the 'A' prefix than the Acorn Archimedes, which is actually marketed with the A.

Look at an A3000 (Archimedes) and you'll see it says "A3000". Look at an Amiga 3000 and it says "Amiga 3000".

Admittedly, I wish my A3000 was an Amiga 3000 However, be assured that no one computer has the right to the 'A' prefix, and if one does, it's the Acorn Archimedes.

That said, I still think the 'X' prefix is better, and if we do use the 'A', we should avoid numbers already used by the Amiga.

[nicholas]

Using the A prefix doesn't bother me but using model numbers of already existing Amiga models is parasitic as TMHG says, not to mention it will cause not just confusion and irrelevant search results but generate an enormous among of bad will towards the OS4 stakeholders.

So much so that search results for their products may be drowned out by the negative feedback it generates possibly damaging sales of their wares.

[danwood]

A3000 is not Amiga:

https://www.google.dk/#q=a3000&safe=active

I was thinking more this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Acorn_Archimedes_A3000_Computer_Main_Unit.jpg

[OlafS3]

Using the A prefix doesn't bother me but using model numbers of already existing Amiga models is parasitic as TMHG says, not to mention it will cause not just confusion and irrelevant search results but generate an enormous among of bad will towards the OS4 stakeholders.

So much so that search results for their products may be drowned out by the negative feedback it generates possibly damaging sales of their wares.

From amigans (Steve Solie):

http://www.amigans.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1962

"Further more, do you think there are more people buying the beast, if a search engine will present Cyrus base System when you enter Amiga 5000?

Absolutely yes.

Could this be confusing? Is this inconsistent? Yeah but nobody cares. The only people who do care are the hard core Amiga guys. The hard core Amiga guys have made up their minds already so there is no point in pandering to them. We need to think outside this microcosm. After reading "Commodore: A Company on the Edge" recently I'm quite sure Jack Tramiel wouldn't think twice about using the A5000 label because his focus was always on selling more units which is the primary objective here as well."

I think it speaks for itself...

[nicholas]

From amigans (Steve Solie):

http://www.amigans.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1962

"Further more, do you think there are more people buying the beast, if a search engine will present Cyrus base System when you enter Amiga 5000?

Absolutely yes.

Could this be confusing? Is this inconsistent? Yeah but nobody cares. The only people who do care are the hard core Amiga guys. The hard core Amiga guys have made up their minds already so there is no point in pandering to them. We need to think outside this microcosm. After reading "Commodore: A Company on the Edge" recently I'm quite sure Jack Tramiel wouldn't think twice about using the A5000 label because his focus was always on selling more units which is the primary objective here as well."

I think it speaks for itself...

It seems they never learn. Sigh.

[wawrzon]

From amigans (Steve Solie):

http://www.amigans.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1962

aww.this is so patherthic, trying to deliberately fool the audience and openly discussing to ride on the back of something they do not belong to and yet they are so hot about it.
pervert..

[nicholas]

aww.this is so patherthic, trying to deliberately fool the audience and openly discussing to ride on the back of something they do not belong to and yet they are so hot about it.
pervert..

Oldthinkers unbellyfeel AmigaOS!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

[bitman]

Did we have the same naming-fuss when Commodore USA annnounced, they would use the Commodore Amiga name for their Commodore Amiga mini?

[itix]

Thumbs up to solie!

[wawrzon]

Did we have the same naming-fuss when Commodore USA annnounced, they would use the Commodore Amiga name for their Commodore Amiga mini?

sure. cant you recall? though they seemes to have at least a proper license to do that. we couldnt do much about it,. instead this here is an outright plot to fool people, right?

[wawrzon]

Thumbs up to solie!

wonder he is the only one the amiwest speech is missing online. it has been reported the recordings from last year are being taken offline btw.

[takemehomegrandma]

From amigans (Steve Solie):

http://www.amigans.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1962

"Further more, do you think there are more people buying the beast, if a search engine will present Cyrus base System when you enter Amiga 5000?

Absolutely yes.

Could this be confusing? Is this inconsistent? Yeah but nobody cares. The only people who do care are the hard core Amiga guys. The hard core Amiga guys have made up their minds already so there is no point in pandering to them. We need to think outside this microcosm. After reading "Commodore: A Company on the Edge" recently I'm quite sure Jack Tramiel wouldn't think twice about using the A5000 label because his focus was always on selling more units which is the primary objective here as well."

I think it speaks for itself...

It seems they never learn. Sigh.

[number6]

wonder he is the only one the amiwest speech is missing online. it has been reported the recordings from last year are being taken offline btw.

http://www.intuitionbase.com/static.php?section=multimedia

2012 is last year, iirc.

#6

[itix]

sure. cant you recall? though they seemes to have at least a proper license to do that. we couldnt do much about it,. instead this here is an outright plot to fool people, right?

Btw Solie's reasoning to get more sales is not going to work in reality. Amiga 500 was the best selling Amiga model but how many sales A-Cube had with AmigaOne 500?

This AmigaOne A5000 is based on broken idea that there is large audience googling and waiting for new Amigas to come. They could call it Amiga 500 and it still wouldnt sell any better. But Solie is a prisoner of Amiga name and cant let it go from his mind.

In five years MorphOS has acquired over 2000 registrations. AROS has established a core group on Raspberry Pi and PC world. Amiga veterans still remember short lived Amithlon. Natami had great following.You dont need amiga name if you can make your product right.

[wawrzon]

@itix
i agree in full lenght. funny how he thinks how smart it is. (especially thtgm got upset and now me seems already reward enough)

[nicholas]

Btw Solie's reasoning to get more sales is not going to work in reality. Amiga 500 was the best selling Amiga model but how many sales A-Cube had with AmigaOne 500?

Ah that must be were A-Cube went wrong. Had they named it the "AmigaOne A500” they'd have been raking in the orders from confused buyers looking to buy a second hand Amiga 500.

There's a good reason why programmers should stick to code and salesmen to marketing, ssolie obviously didn't get the memo.