I would/wouldn't like a production run of 060's

[bloodline]

if it was up to me, I'd just port the WinUAE hardware emulation to QEMU, and use QEMU's m68k dynamic-translation (JIT like) which works on any architecture.

Hang on... It's taken me a while but wouldn't this allow you to creat some "interesting" virtual hardware setups... Like an Amiga with an x86 or ARM as a CPU!? -edit- or even something really weird like a PPC!?

[psxphill]

or even something really weird like a PPC!?

Nobody has created a Phase5 PPC emulator because they can't be bothered, not because it's particularly hard.
I though about doing it, but I have too much other stuff going on. It doesn't help that I've never owned one so I have no software for it or even an idea of what I'd use the emulation for.

[nicholas]

Nobody has created a Phase5 PPC emulator because they can't be bothered, not because it's particularly hard.
I though about doing it, but I have too much other stuff going on. It doesn't help that I've never owned one so I have no software for it or even an idea of what I'd use the emulation for.

For running the B/CSPPC version of OS4 on hardware that isn't crap.

That's my reason for lusting after such a feature in UAE anyway.

But Bloodline's idea of having virtual 68k and PPC cores in an (A)SMP variant of AROS would be even better.

[nicholas]

Hang on... It's taken me a while but wouldn't this allow you to creat some "interesting" virtual hardware setups... Like an Amiga with an x86 or ARM as a CPU!? -edit- or even something really weird like a PPC!?

+Eleventy-one to that!

[_ThEcRoW]

I'm with the qemu improved thing too!.

[psxphill]

For running the B/CSPPC version of OS4 on hardware that isn't crap.
 
That's my reason for lusting after such a feature in UAE anyway.

Are there any killer apps on OS4?

[nicholas]

Are there any killer apps on OS4?

Absolutely none whatsoever but I still lust after such an emulator.

[bbond007]

Absolutely none whatsoever but I still lust after such an emulator.

Would it be possible to adapt PearPC? I remember successfully running OSX on that thing but it was really slow. I don't remember what kind of hardware had back then, but it would be interesting to let my i7 have a crack at it now

[klx300r]

060 is quite a lot better than 040.  After I got my 060 I gave my 040 machine away.

Well I just recently got my first 040@40 (which I got to upgrade to 060@66)  and can tell you it's 3X as fast as my 030@50 and have seen no compatability errors in WHDload that I've been hearing about for years.
I've had it in my desktop running for days with no issues and the CPU barely gets warm to the touch (mind you it has a small fan on it & my case has another fan).

[bloodline]

Would it be possible to adapt PearPC? I remember successfully running OSX on that thing but it was really slow. I don't remember what kind of hardware had back then, but it would be interesting to let my i7 have a crack at it now

PearPC emulates a Mac, so if the AOS4 devs want to let their OS run on it it can. I wouldn't be surprised if MOS can already run on it

[nicholas]

Would it be possible to adapt PearPC? I remember successfully running OSX on that thing but it was really slow. I don't remember what kind of hardware had back then, but it would be interesting to let my i7 have a crack at it now

It's theoretically possible, same as using the GXEmul or QEMU dynamic translation cores but nobody seems interested to do the work required to integrate it with UAE to appear as a Phase5 board to the emulated Amiga.

Looking at the code of all three, I say using GXEmul would be the least amount of work but that's only my guess as doing such a thing is way above my abilities but i'd very much like to see it happen.

Maybe a hefty "Phase5 PPC board emulation for UAE" bounty might tempt someone?

Then again I reckon more people would be interested in a 68k-JIT for UAE on PPC and last time I checked that bounty prize wasn't particularly large in relation to how much work Álmos is putting into it.

http://euaejit.blogspot.co.uk/
http://www.amigabounty.net/?function=viewproject&projectid=35
http://gxemul.sourceforge.net/

[nicholas]

PearPC emulates a Mac, so if the AOS4 devs want to let their OS run on it it can. I wouldn't be surprised if MOS can already run on it

MOS is hardwired to only boot on specific machine ID's so PearPC would have to be modified to present itself as one of the supported models.

Bigfoot already demonstrated MorphOS running on a modfied QEMU on Linux a few years ago.

[nicholas]

Well I just recently got my first 040@40 (which I got to upgrade to 060@66)  and can tell you it's 3X as fast as my 030@50 and have seen no compatability errors in WHDload that I've been hearing about for years.
I've had it in my desktop running for days with no issues and the CPU barely gets warm to the touch (mind you it has a small fan on it & my case has another fan).

060's run a lot cooler than 040's do and as you've noticed they are so much faster too.

Do yourself a big favour and buy a copy of the HSMathLibs 060 version.  The speedup is very noticable.

http://www.hsmathlibs.de/index_e.html

Make sure you install either Cyberpatcher from Phase5, Oxypatcher or MuRedox+Thor's 68060 libs.

http://phase5.a1k.org/index.php?tools

And Matt Hey's CopyMem 060 is an amazing piece of work that is a must if you want to get the best performance out of your machine.

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/CopyMem

It's not 060 specific but I recommend installing TLSFMem too for another dramatic speed up.

http://www.platon42.de/files/util/TLSFMem.lha

[klx300r]

@ nicholas

thanks for the links as they'll come in in handy when I do the 040 to 060 upgrade; however, my previous post was based on just using my 040@40 and I must admit I'm surprised as I've read so many negative comments about the 040 boards.

[nicholas]

@ nicholas

thanks for the links as they'll come in in handy when I do the 040 to 060 upgrade; however, my previous post was based on just using my 040@40 and I must admit I'm surprised as I've read so many negative comments about the 040 boards.

You're welcome.

Even with the 040 installed you can install Thor's 68040.library, mmu.library, MuRedox, CopyMem and TLSFMem.

Then when you put the 060 in you just need to install Thor's 68060.library, power off, install the 060 and power on. Job done!

There is also an 040 version of the HSMathLibs. I had them when I was using a WarpEngine 040@40MHz and just bought another licence of the 060 version when i upgraded to a CSMK2 060@50MHz as they are quite cheap and really worth the money.

[klx300r]

You're welcome.

Even with the 040 installed you can install Thor's 68040.library, mmu.library, MuRedox, CopyMem and TLSFMem.

Then when you put the 060 in you just need to install Thor's 68060.library, power off, install the 060 and power on. Job done!

There is also an 040 version of the HSMathLibs. I had them when I was using a WarpEngine 040@40MHz and just bought another licence of the 060 version when i upgraded to a CSMK2 060@50MHz as they are quite cheap and really worth the money.

great stuff! I have only installed Thor's 040 library & mmu.library so far but will try the others soon:drink: