AmigaONE X2000

[NovaCoder]

So is this new machine less powerful than the X1000 then?

[ferrellsl]

@Kickstart

I think you're right.  Instead of creating new hardware that's overpriced and underpowered, they should focus on cleaning up OS4 and adding decent printer support, USB3.0 and 3D accelerated graphics.  Support of the 3 things I mentioned are abysmal at best and non-existent at worst.

[magnetic]

I'm still not getting why they bother with dual-core when OS4 doesn't support SMP?

I dont understand why they continue to use high price under powered exotic hardware for the platform. They should focus all efforts on Mac PPC hardware like Morphos team did. Project moana should have been the "new" platform for Amiga os4

[billt]

I'm still not getting why they bother with dual-core when OS4 doesn't support SMP?

It makes more sense to provide the hardware first, and then work on the software to use it. It's somewhat harder to do the other way around. I myself would rather see a T4240 kit with lots of cores, but some call me crazy.

If I were the designer, I'd want to add in as many advanced features as possible, so the board supports them when the software catches up, and the user can benefit from such OS upgrades. Or, like my XE-G4, it won't do anything better when OS4 does get SMP support. I'd prefer untapped potential to a blockade.

[Seiya]

This machine seems more powerful than X1000, at least by cpu and memory side.
X1000 is 1,8 Ghz and use DDR2 memory
X2000 use 2.0 Ghz (and could be scaled to 2,2 Ghz) and use DDR3 memory.

i don't know, but with this spec, che price could be very high (on amiga market of course)

[AmigaNG]

I added this to my post on Amigaworld, but basically the goal of "Cyrus" motherboard is to replace the nemo board with one that Is a lot more long term and future proof for Amiga users than the nemo was. To that end the board should support the P5040 so an X4000 could be made with the CPU: P5040 at 2.4Ghz quad core down the road.

SMP is coming in OS4.2

I think there playing more the long game with the hardware as software can always catch up afterwards, it be harder the other way around pushing the hardware with software which I suppose is what the Classic Amiga market is, this is after the NG market.

[OlafS3]

It is impossible to sell expensive hardware without software. But I think most people interpret too much in it, searching for a "masterplan" that does not exist. They are simply adding features over time as long as they can earn money with it.

[yssing]

Sounds great

Hopefully I can better afford this new motherboard.

[magnetic]

SMP is coming in OS4.2
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errmm  no.

[takemehomegrandma]

Another underpowered machine overpriced?

Most certainly so, yes. It's yet another extremely low volume motherboard based on a weak and expensive PPC CPU, so I think this is a safe bet!

i don't understand why they want to insist on new hardware if X1000 don't have yet full support audio, video, pci-xpress 3D accelation, Xena and Xorro.

Trevor said in that video that a commercial release of the "X2000" wouldn't happen until at least 12-18 months because of the time needed of porting OS4/writing drivers. Well, the "X1000" was at the current "X2000" development stage (prototype had been built, OS4 porting was initiated) in the year 2009. And guess what? Four years later we are still waiting...

So is this new machine less powerful than the X1000 then?

A step backwards in some areas, a step forward in others. The lack of Altivec is a real downer IMHO.

Overall I'd say the "X2000" is more like a step *sideways* than it is a leap forward compared to the "X1000". And it's probably two years away.

I'm still not getting why they bother with dual-core when OS4 doesn't support SMP?

It makes more sense to provide the hardware first, and then work on the software to use it. It's somewhat harder to do the other way around. I myself would rather see a T4240 kit with lots of cores, but some call me crazy.

If I were the designer, I'd want to add in as many advanced features as possible, so the board supports them when the software catches up, and the user can benefit from such OS upgrades. Or, like my XE-G4, it won't do anything better when OS4 does get SMP support. I'd prefer untapped potential to a blockade.

True SMP simply can't be incorporated into Amiga without breaking the Amiga environment/backwards compatibility in such fundamental ways that you could as well introduce 64-bit, true memory protection and do a proper ISA switch to x86 while you are at it. There is no point in hanging on to the PPC after restarting with a clean slate. So if this has really been the plan, then the "X2000" (and the "X1000" as well for that matter) is redundant and an even worse idea.  

(And I'm very puzzled why the "Xorro/Xena" is still there? It only increases the complexity of the design, thus making it unnecessary expensive at several levels. And it's utterly useless, not even A-eon has a good answer why it's there or what it can/will be used for!)

[ElPolloDiabl]

Now that it has been brought up, is there any reason not to go x86 anymore?
Surely they could borrow a lot from open source AROS.

[nicholas]

Now that it has been brought up, is there any reason not to go x86 anymore?
Surely they could borrow a lot from open source AROS.

But it would no longer be t3h tru3 Am1g4 if it used AROS code. The name worshipping sub-sect of OS4 users would probably all die from heart attacks.

Not that this would necessarily be a bad thing as they have caused nothing but damage to this community.

[OlafS3]

What do you mean? There is a good reason not to go to X86... they want to be paid for it (propably in the millions). Because nobody will do that it will not happen.

[OlafS3]

for "true" supporters it must all directly inherit from the original sources (including all errors). And as long as they can earn money in a shrinking market they will continue with what they are doing now.

[arnljot]

The name worshipping sub-sect of OS4 users would probably all die from heart attacks.

Not that this would necessarily be a bad thing

Seriously, way over the line. Not even put in a funny way.

[Gulliver]

What a waste of money and resources...

They instead should invest in getting OS4 of the annoyingly beta status, where it has been lying dormant for years (No proper driver support and incomplete feature set).

A real pitty.