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Autoconfig, Hardware Manufacturer Number?
« on: June 11, 2013, 12:00:21 AM »
Is there any management of the Hardware Manufacturer Numbers used by Autoconfig that were assigned by the Commodore Amiga Technical Support in West Chester, Pennsylvania in the past?
(as mentioned here googlecode.com: AUTOCONF.TXT)
 

Offline Matt_H

Re: Autoconfig, Hardware Manufacturer Number?
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2013, 02:17:32 AM »
There is a list of assigned IDs somewhere, can't recall where though.
 

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Re: Autoconfig, Hardware Manufacturer Number?
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2013, 02:25:42 AM »
yeah i've seen a list too online... if i find it again i'll post it
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Re: Autoconfig, Hardware Manufacturer Number?
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2013, 04:50:07 AM »
Quote from: freqmax;737455
Is there any management of the Hardware Manufacturer Numbers used by Autoconfig that were assigned by the Commodore Amiga Technical Support in West Chester, Pennsylvania in the past?
(as mentioned here googlecode.com: AUTOCONF.TXT)

Everything I was able to learn about these things is shown here:
http://amigabillprojects.wikispaces.com/Amiga+Autoconfig+IDs

Olaf Barthel is as best of a maintainer as you may get, since he owns the relevant OS sourcecode. Though I'm not sure how to get to that discussion on UtilityBase anymore.

From what I remember of the story, there were two files storing the database at Commodore. They moved buildings and lost one of them or something, so some IDs may be lost. I've forgotten any good detail about what I think I'm remembering here.
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Re: Autoconfig, Hardware Manufacturer Number?
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2013, 09:20:24 AM »
Quote from: freqmax;737455
Is there any management of the Hardware Manufacturer Numbers used by Autoconfig that were assigned by the Commodore Amiga Technical Support in West Chester, Pennsylvania in the past?
(as mentioned here googlecode.com: AUTOCONF.TXT)


Please have a look at the hardware manufacturer ID page on the AmigaOS wiki. Although I can take care of assigning IDs if you need it, the procedure outlined on the page is the official one now.

The page has been recently updated and polished, and it also contains a list of IDs that are on record.

Please note that the list of IDs on the page is probably incomplete. Which means that you can't just grab one from the historic number ranges (say, 1999) and expect it to work. While the risk may be low that there will be collision, why take chances?
 

Offline zipper

Re: Autoconfig, Hardware Manufacturer Number?
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2013, 09:39:44 AM »
Incomplete, yes. For instance missing Petsoff, makers of Delfina and DblScan.
 

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Re: Autoconfig, Hardware Manufacturer Number?
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2013, 10:28:54 AM »
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Incomplete, yes. For instance missing Petsoff, makers of Delfina and DblScan.


Which ID would that be?
 

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Re: Autoconfig, Hardware Manufacturer Number?
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2013, 01:09:31 PM »
Re amiga.resource.cx:
Delfina (Classic)  Petsoff, Finland   Date 1996     Autoconfig ID 14501 / 0
Delfina Lite  Petsoff Date 1997  Autoconfig ID 14501 / 1
Delfina Plus Petsoff Date 2001    Autoconfig ID 14501 / 2
 

Offline nicholas

Re: Autoconfig, Hardware Manufacturer Number?
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2013, 01:57:41 PM »
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Re: Autoconfig, Hardware Manufacturer Number?
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2013, 02:06:37 PM »
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Re amiga.resource.cx:
Delfina (Classic)  Petsoff, Finland   Date 1996     Autoconfig ID 14501 / 0
Delfina Lite  Petsoff Date 1997  Autoconfig ID 14501 / 1
Delfina Plus Petsoff Date 2001    Autoconfig ID 14501 / 2


My, that's a weird one. To the best of my knowledge, this ID was not assigned by Commodore, Amiga Technologies GmbH or anybody else who assumed responsibility for registering IDs since then. Commodore would have picked a number from the 2000 or 4000 range, and Amiga Technologies GmbH, etc. would have picked one from the 5000 range.

Anyway, I'll make a note to record the ID.
 

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Re: Autoconfig, Hardware Manufacturer Number?
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2013, 02:07:22 PM »
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Is this any help?

http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/BoardsLib


No, unfortunately not. There is no list of manufacturer IDs included, it's "binary only".
 

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Re: Autoconfig, Hardware Manufacturer Number?
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2013, 02:43:18 PM »
Disassemble it?

Or make UAE trigger various IDs and grab them from the utility?
 

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Re: Autoconfig, Hardware Manufacturer Number?
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2013, 03:02:41 PM »
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Disassemble it?

Or make UAE trigger various IDs and grab them from the utility?


Since providing a complete list of assigned and appropriated manufacturer ID is probably not even possible, I guess this might be a bit more work than is worth it...

Besides, sending an e-mail to the author of the library and asking him for a copy of his ID table might be just as effective ;)
 

Offline Thomas

Re: Autoconfig, Hardware Manufacturer Number?
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2013, 04:48:45 PM »
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No, unfortunately not. There is no list of manufacturer IDs included, it's "binary only".


This guy should have the source code: http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=36714

He also worked on a program which lists all boards known to the library.