Amiga system poll

[redfox]

@Mizar

AmigaOne X1000 comes preassembled.  I am not sure if there is a choice for the case.

There are several options available for Sam460ex ...
- a preassembled system called AmigaOne 500
- custom solutions with Sam460ex motherboard, choice of case and other optional components
- Sam460ex motherboard + optional other optional components

If you have assembled your own PC from scratch, assembling a Sam460 system is very similar.

However, the Sam460 uses very little power, so you have to use a smaller wattage power supply or add extra drives to bring the power consumption up to the rating of the power supply.

I have never towerized a classic Amiga system so I can't respond to that.

I purchased my PPC motherboard near the end of 2004 and assembled my own system from scratch.  I used an Antec Minuet-II case and 220 Watt power supply.  This was sufficient for my hard drive and DVD-combo drive.  The OS was included on a CD and was very easy to install.  In those days, the OS was called AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release Update 1.  I was not a developer or beta tester, just an interested user who wanted a new system to replace my ancient A2000HD.

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redfox
MicroA1 + AmigaOS 4.1 Update 5

[PanterHZ]

I voted Aros because of the underlined "modern" word in the title, otherwise I might have voted  one of the FPGA systems instead.

Another reason for voting Aros is simply because of the flexibility of this NG Amiga variant, where it to a certain degree is hardware independent. It has also been proven that Aros can be ported to other CPU architectures besides x86 as well.

[Templario]

The Sam and for MOS users, we wait someday that MOS run on the Sams..... because it will be interesting for me very much.

[alex]

Can someone create a new poll and include the MOS options and any other crazy combo they can think of?  I'm EXTREMELY curious which way it would go.

[Mizar]

Ok, let's clear up this MorphOS misunderstanding.  I actually was asking about Amiga hardware options when submitting the poll about which is the best Amiga system.  Hence, the last option, "nevermind the hardware- AROS" actually was meant to be all-encompassing for any and all software options on other than Amiga hardware (except for emulation- that's non-Amiga only pretending to be Amiga, regardless of how good of a job it might do).  The better wording for the last option could have been "nevermind the Amiga hardware- AROS, MorphOS, etc."  I thought Amiga hardware would be understood, and even the omission of specific OSs could have been understood to fit in that category.  But, it seems one must be extremely precise in wording on Amiga.org.  :laugh1:

MorphOS users, take note: Hence, the AROS option is the same as a MorphOS option!  I wasn't even asking for a choice between the two, as they both run on non-Amiga hardware (and Amiga hardware in some cases).  That choice was essentially any non-Amiga hardware option.  Now MorphOS users can select their option.

Hi,

Just getting even for no pancake option, as you can see I am a pancake fan you miser.

And look what you did to poor itx, he had to vote for AROS, and I know that really hurt.

By the way anyone know the price of an AmigaOne X1000?

Pancakes, indeed. :confused:

As just explained, the AROS option was actually the "other than Amiga hardware" option, which included not only AROS, but MorphOS, and any other Amiga connected base OS.  So Itx selected the correct one- that is assuming he uses MorphOS on his Mac (he didn't actually specify).

Yes, I recently looked it up, and the X1000 costs right around $3000.  Probably a bit more with the shipping.  Sounds like a lengthy wait to receive one, too.

@Mizar

AmigaOne X1000 comes preassembled.  I am not sure if there is a choice for the case.

There are several options available for Sam460ex ...
- a preassembled system called AmigaOne 500
- custom solutions with Sam460ex motherboard, choice of case and other optional components
- Sam460ex motherboard + optional other optional components

If you have assembled your own PC from scratch, assembling a Sam460 system is very similar.

However, the Sam460 uses very little power, so you have to use a smaller wattage power supply or add extra drives to bring the power consumption up to the rating of the power supply.

I have never towerized a classic Amiga system so I can't respond to that.

I purchased my PPC motherboard near the end of 2004 and assembled my own system from scratch.  I used an Antec Minuet-II case and 220 Watt power supply.  This was sufficient for my hard drive and DVD-combo drive.  The OS was included on a CD and was very easy to install.  In those days, the OS was called AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release Update 1.  I was not a developer or beta tester, just an interested user who wanted a new system to replace my ancient A2000HD.

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Thank you, redfox.  Finally someone answered one of my main questions about the installation of hardware.  At this point, I'm definitely thinking either SAM or Mediator is the best choice.  (And AROS for an existing laptop.)

Trick question.  Amiga is a classic computer from the late 80's early 90's.  There is no compromise. Mona Lisa print anyone?

I think that should be from mid-80s to mid-90s, even for Commodore.  And then Escom AG extended it through at least '96.

[kickstart]

MorphOS users, take note: Hence, the AROS option is the same as a MorphOS option!  I wasn't even asking for a choice between the two, as they both run on non-Amiga hardware (and Amiga hardware in some cases).  That choice was essentially any non-Amiga hardware option.  Now MorphOS users can select their option.

SAMS or x1000 arent amiga hardware, last amiga hardware was a1200, a4000, cd32.

[Mizar]

SAMS or x1000 arent amiga hardware, last amiga hardware was a1200, a4000, cd32.

Yes, well technically they're not pure Amiga hardware, of course.  But they're Amiga-ized hardware, so I've included them.

[kickstart]

@mizar

Then a macmini, powerbook or powermac with mos are "amiga-ized" hardware.

[Kesa]

@Mizar. I don't approve of this stereotyping. I never picked you for a racist.

[NovaCoder]

It's very insightful that people think FPGA system(s) are the better choice for a 'modern' Amiga system than X1000/SAM boards and we are not exactly drowning in FPGA options are we?  

I think it's time to admit that OS4 on 'next gen' hardware isn't going anywhere.

Hopefully in the future there will be more FPGA options for use 68k users (eg CloneA, FPGA Arcade and FPGA accelerators for classic HW).   I personally think a fast (cheap) FPGA 68k computer with RTG/LAN/USB + a customized AROS 68k OS is the future for a modern Amiga.

[haywirepc]

It's very insightful that people think FPGA system(s) are the better choice for a 'modern' Amiga system than X1000/SAM boards and we are not exactly drowning in FPGA options are we?  

I think it's time to admit that OS4 on 'next gen' hardware isn't going anywhere.

Hopefully in the future there will be more FPGA options for use 68k users (eg CloneA, FPGA Arcade and FPGA accelerators for classic HW).   I personally think a fast (cheap) FPGA 68k computer with RTG/LAN/USB + a customized AROS 68k OS is the future for a modern Amiga.

Someone needs to write a fully modern browser for 68k for that to be the case...

[NovaCoder]

Someone needs to write a fully modern browser for 68k for that to be the case...

Was that a nudge

[Mizar]

@mizar

Then a macmini, powerbook or powermac with mos are "amiga-ized" hardware.

What?  :huh:  Of course they are not!  Those are Mac system hardware- in what way are they connected to Amiga?  That MOS is installed makes it an Amiga-ized system via software only.  You do understand the difference between hardware and software?

@Mizar. I don't approve of this stereotyping. I never picked you for a racist.

A hardware racist, hmm?  :lol:

It's very insightful that people think FPGA system(s) are the better choice for a 'modern' Amiga system than X1000/SAM boards and we are not exactly drowning in FPGA options are we?  

I think it's time to admit that OS4 on 'next gen' hardware isn't going anywhere.

Hopefully in the future there will be more FPGA options for use 68k users (eg CloneA, FPGA Arcade and FPGA accelerators for classic HW).   I personally think a fast (cheap) FPGA 68k computer with RTG/LAN/USB + a customized AROS 68k OS is the future for a modern Amiga.

Yes, exactly!  I noticed that too, as FPGA was ahead of X1000, SAM, and Mediator in the poll.  And I even underlined the word "modern".

That sounds like a nice Amiga system you describe, except I would hope it would use OS4.  It would also be a truer Amiga than most of the Amiga options currently.

Someone needs to write a fully modern browser for 68k for that to be the case...

Or maybe it's a chicken or the egg thing.  Maybe the aforementioned FPGA system has to be developed for the fully modern 68k browser to be written.