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Re: Is more MHZ better Or?
« Reply #14 from previous page: October 19, 2012, 07:02:32 AM »
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Hi if it could get so smooth as on the PC do you think that it will take a 060 to do that?


Perhaps 040 @ 40 MHz would do it but if at all possible go for 68060.
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Re: Is more MHZ better Or?
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2012, 08:30:38 AM »
Hi,
The cache memory does make a big difference. I once turned off the Level 1 cache on a Pentium 200mhz and everything just slowed to a crawl.

If you turn off the cache on an 040, there is a slow down, but most things still run normal.

If the game is CPU intensive then that is what you need to upgrade. If it is graphics dependant then you are limited by the graphics chips.

Try the game on WinUAE or other UAE and see if it is worth upgrading the Amiga.
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Re: Is more MHZ better Or?
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2012, 09:42:05 AM »
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The cache memory does make a big difference. I once turned off the Level 1 cache on a Pentium 200mhz and everything just slowed to a crawl.

If you turn off the cache on an 040, there is a slow down, but most things still run normal.
That's what amazes me, looking back at the mid-'90s - 200MHz clock speeds, and everybody was still using RAM that wasn't fast enough for 33MHz CPUs...yikes.
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Re: Is more MHZ better Or?
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2012, 11:27:36 AM »
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Hi if it could get so smooth as on the PC do you think that it will take a 060 to do that?

If I were you lassie, I'd save up for an 060 card. If you buy an 040 card at 40MHz (as great as they are) you'll always want more speed eventually. Especially if you expect to play AB3DII TKG at full screen, or Quake in any form.
Have you tried Gloom Deluxe?
http://hol.abime.net/2741/screenshot
It's a brilliant game, and it runs very nicely on an 040 at 40MHz. With a reduced screen size it might run okay on your 030 as well.

Even Gloom 1 (just called "Gloom") is a great game, and that will run very smooth on your current system. ;)
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Re: Is more MHZ better Or?
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2012, 11:49:30 AM »
I agree with Paul...  Save up and buy the best accelerator available.  

I would view utube videos of those systems running the games first or use winuae.

The biggest limit your fighting against is the chipset so speed increases are never linear.  But they certainly help.
 

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Re: Is more MHZ better Or?
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2012, 06:44:34 PM »
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That's what amazes me, looking back at the mid-'90s - 200MHz clock speeds, and everybody was still using RAM that wasn't fast enough for 33MHz CPUs...yikes.

You say that like it's a thing of the past! Memory still can't keep up with the CPU.
 

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Re: Is more MHZ better Or?
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2012, 06:55:40 PM »
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You say that like it's a thing of the past! Memory still can't keep up with the CPU.
Oh, quite true. But not by quite so wide a margin, these days...
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Re: Is more MHZ better Or?
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2013, 06:38:30 PM »
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You say that like it's a thing of the past! Memory still can't keep up with the CPU.


With EDO memory at this speed who needs SDRAM

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Re: Is more MHZ better Or?
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2013, 07:26:14 PM »
Hah! Where do I get some of that for my Amiga?
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