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Offline Karlos

Re: Prometheus
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2012, 03:57:58 PM »
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Yep. Though most of RS's films since then seem to have gone a bit downhill. I had high hopes for Prometheus that it was an opportunity for a bit of intelligent Sci Fi (and I realise that compared to literature of the same genra, films are generally on a much lower plane). Instead, I watched this totally different movie that everybody else seemed to be raging on about.

I actually watched it twice, because after the first run, I was utterly convinced I'd missed something vital to the plot that made this incoherent string of events make any kind of sense. So I watched it again, more closely. And it turned out , I hadn't.

The basic idea behind the plot, go off in search of answers to our existence seemed reasonable enough, but it was executed so badly. It was as if the storyboarding was given to a group of five year olds armed with crayons and script writing given to the tea lady. There were so many inconsistencies in the behaviour of the characters. The only one with any depth was David. The lack of common sense among a crew supposedly formed of experts in their respective fields just grated from scene to scene, where invariably the did something epically stupid every single time.

I can't help thinking that at the end of the initial cut, they must have realised what a complete shambles it was and decided to quickly add the genesis of the first xenomoprh just to try and end on a note that is less full of suck. Depsite the fact it had already been depicted in the murals within the chamber where the big head and urns of black goop were.

I can actually picture Ridley wearing a trollface mask, demanding "U MAD BRO?" of anybody that watched it with one braincell awake and paying attention.
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Offline djos

Re: Prometheus
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2012, 09:28:40 PM »
@Karlos, I totally agree with you, the plot/story was terrible and I noticed most of the same things you did - as a popcorn flic it's ok but yeah after all the hype i was hoping for more.

That said, somehow I still enjoyed it - apparently a family member is getting it for me on BluRay for xmas and im interested to see the extended version and alternate beginning to see if that improves things.
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2012, 12:05:00 AM »
Awful movie, not simply that it didn't live up to hype, but it was terrible. Rubbish plot, unbelievable characters doing unbelievably stupid things, and completely gash creature design.

In at least 2 fits of insanity I wrote a couple of articles explaining exactly why its terrible, which I feel probably had a lot to do with Damon (Lost) Lindelof's script re-write at the studios behest, and Sir Ridley for letting them get away with it.... Read if you dare! http://coolhandgraphics.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/prometheus-33-final-insult.html

also includes links to some interviews with some of the villains of the piece - full of excuses as to why its so bad.

Of course, if you did like the movie overall, fair enough.:)

Offline lassie

Re: Prometheus
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2012, 12:26:41 AM »
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Awful movie, not simply that it didn't live up to hype, but it was terrible. Rubbish plot, unbelievable characters doing unbelievably stupid things, and completely gash creature design.

In at least 2 fits of insanity I wrote a couple of articles explaining exactly why its terrible, which I feel probably had a lot to do with Damon (Lost) Lindelof's script re-write at the studios behest, and Sir Ridley for letting them get away with it.... Read if you dare! http://coolhandgraphics.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/prometheus-33-final-insult.html

also includes links to some interviews with some of the villains of the piece - full of excuses as to why its so bad.

Of course, if you did like the movie overall, fair enough.:)


If a movie is hyped up to be the best film ever, it rarely is. But if you see a movie that you only heard bad things about, suddenly it can be a good movie,  hype can be a bad thing sometimes.
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2012, 12:59:55 AM »
@Lassie. That is what i thought about Avatar. I never even bothered watching the end. I mean, you take out the 3D and the CGI and what is left over? Absolutely nothing. This is a shame as James Cameron is my favoutite director   :(

@Karlos. Maybe you could provide an example of a sci-fi you approve of? I'm curious to know. Please don't say doctor who.
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2012, 01:18:08 AM »
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@Lassie. That is what i thought about Avatar. I never even bothered watching the end. I mean, you take out the 3D and the CGI and what is left over? Absolutely nothing. This is a shame as James Cameron is my favoutite director   :(

@Karlos. Maybe you could provide an example of a sci-fi you approve of? I'm curious to know. Please don't say doctor who.

I have Avatar on bluray but only seen 30 min of it, not my thing i must admit.
There are a movie called Pandorum that is quite cool :)
and an old b movie set in space, called Dark side of the moon, that is quite cool too.
And the Abyss also a Cameron movie is good :)
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2012, 01:29:42 AM »
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I have Avatar on bluray but only seen 30 min of it, not my thing i must admit.
There are a movie called Pandorum that is quite cool :)
and an old b movie set in space, called Dark side of the moon, that is quite cool too.
And the Abyss also a Cameron movie is good :)

I love Abyss!

Both Pandorum and Dark side of the moon sound good to me. Will watch soon. Pandorum sounds similar to Event Horizon which can only be a good thing :)
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Offline lassie

Re: Prometheus
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2012, 01:40:01 AM »
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I love Abyss!

Both Pandorum and Dark side of the moon sound good to me. Will watch soon. Pandorum sounds similar to Event Horizon which can only be a good thing :)


Yes it is similar to Event Horizon, they are cool both movies :)
Bear in mind that Dark side of the moon is a low budget movie. Do you like those low budget movies?

There is also a movie similar to the Abyss, it is called Deep star six, cool movie too.
And an old horror movie called Death ship, i find quite unique you should see, if you are in too horror, it is similar to Ghost Ship.
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2012, 07:47:35 AM »
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Yes it is similar to Event Horizon, they are cool both movies :)
Bear in mind that Dark side of the moon is a low budget movie. Do you like those low budget movies?

There is also a movie similar to the Abyss, it is called Deep star six, cool movie too.
And an old horror movie called Death ship, i find quite unique you should see, if you are in too horror, it is similar to Ghost Ship.

Only if they are good. I find low budget tends to be more risky and bold which is what art is supposed to be. Big budget scifi is safe and boring. I lost interest in big budget scifi after watching movies like 2012, ID4 and Star Wars ep1.

On the otherhand irobot is one of my favourite movies of all time. It's a nod to old school scifi which is about science which is better than todays "scifi" epics like Men in Black and Star Wars ep1-6 which is just big dumb fun.

Have you seen Chronicle? It's a lost footage movie which i thought was interesting. Also Apollo 18 was good.
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Offline lassie

Re: Prometheus
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2012, 09:48:04 AM »
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Only if they are good. I find low budget tends to be more risky and bold which is what art is supposed to be. Big budget scifi is safe and boring. I lost interest in big budget scifi after watching movies like 2012, ID4 and Star Wars ep1.

On the otherhand irobot is one of my favourite movies of all time. It's a nod to old school scifi which is about science which is better than todays "scifi" epics like Men in Black and Star Wars ep1-6 which is just big dumb fun.

Have you seen Chronicle? It's a lost footage movie which i thought was interesting. Also Apollo 18 was good.

Hi i will have to agree with you, they have to be good those low budget, and some are. I have seen low budget movies far better than any big studie could make, and what they do not have in CGI and actors, they make up for in story :)
I have not seen Chronicle, i will have to check it out.
I have Apollo 18, and it is a good movie. And i just love the old star wars movies.
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2012, 11:36:16 PM »
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@Karlos. Maybe you could provide an example of a sci-fi you approve of? I'm curious to know. Please don't say doctor who.


Nope, Dr. Who is not my thing.

As I said, I rather prefer written Sci Fi over film, but there are plenty of acceptable examples, including Abyss. I also rather like the Sci Fi / horror crossover, so again Event Horizon, Alien. Even Aliens was OK, on the understanding it's fundamentally an action, rather than horror Sci Fi movie.

Although it had many differences from the book, Dune wasn't bad.

Then there's the whole brain-in-a-jar concept which has been around a lot. The original Matrix was pretty good (but got worse quickly with the second and third parts). Exploring similar ideas of simulated reality (albeit with a very different plot), the Abre los ojos (Open your eyes, the original Vanilla Sky before Cruise and chums butchered it), the 13th floor and Dark City are all interesting films. Even inception was pretty good, though it's not exactly science fiction, though it explores the same quintessential idea of questioning the nature of reality.
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Offline lassie

Re: Prometheus
« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2012, 11:42:05 PM »
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Nope, Dr. Who is not my thing.

As I said, I rather prefer written Sci Fi over film, but there are plenty of acceptable examples, including Abyss. I also rather like the Sci Fi / horror crossover, so again Event Horizon, Alien. Even Aliens was OK, on the understanding it's fundamentally an action, rather than horror Sci Fi movie.

Although it had many differences from the book, Dune wasn't bad.

Then there's the whole brain-in-a-jar concept which has been around a lot. The original Matrix was pretty good (but got worse quickly with the second and third parts). Exploring similar ideas of simulated reality (albeit with a very different plot), the Abre los ojos (Open your eyes, the original Vanilla Sky before Cruise and chums butchered it), the 13th floor and Dark City are all interesting films. Even inception was pretty good, though it's not exactly science fiction, though it explores the same quintessential idea of questioning the nature of reality.


What about Predator and Terminator do you like them? I think they are very good, the first one are the best in both films, but both sequels are quite good too i think.
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2012, 11:54:38 PM »
I loved dark city and Inception! I think I've bought them on at least 2 different formats each! :D

here's my personal Sci-Fi movie collection (not to everyone's tastes im sure :D ):

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2012, 11:55:16 PM »
Predators was an awesome film. Mindless and really intune with the original. The last terminator film was pretty entertaining but i didn't like 3.
 
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I loved dark city and Inception! I think I've bought them on at least 2 different formats each! :D

Dark City was good but never watch Inception.

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2012, 11:59:18 PM »
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Predators was an awesome film. Mindless and really intune with the original. The last terminator film was pretty entertaining but i didn't like 3.
 

 
Dark City was good but never watch Inception.


Yes the 3 Terminator movie was not the best.
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