It's 20 years on, and Windows still doesn't have...

[Thorham]

It's 20 years on, and Amiga freaks are still bitching about a succesful operating system.

Can AmigaOS run Photoshop? Is Cubase available for AmigaOS? Is AmigaOS relevant to professional life? Does the younger generation hang on deprecated operating systems or do they just need an up to date computer as a tool to do their work?

This thread is about what Windows doesn't have, not about AmigaOS being better than Windows. AmigaOS clearly isn't better anymore, and I think most people here will agree with that.

Hi,

Windows still doesn't have stability

smerf

Indeed, that's why my WindowsXP setup only crashes once a year (or less) :rolleyes:

[commodorejohn]

120 Million is the forecast tablet sales in 2012, it was 60 Million in 2011 and they predict 140 million sold in 2013.  Traditional desktop sales are flat at around 120 million a year. So basically if projections are right, and we are 7 months into the year, tablet and desktop sales for the year will be about equal....

Right, and clearly this trend will continue forever unchanged, as trends are well-known for doing! Why, if we went from marginal to 120 million per year in just two years, that's an increase of nearly 60 million per year per year! Why, in 114 years we'll be selling more tablets per year than there are people right now on the Earth!

[stefcep2]

I've had Windows 7 machines running for years now without a single crash, only being reset to install security updates.

There isn't a single MS OS that doesn't crash.  I have a dual boot XP-Pro Vista business desktop: both have crashed.  I have a HP Dv4 laptop with Win 7 Ultimate: Three crashes in the last week alone.  Yes I can go for months without a crash, but all OS's crash, eventually.

[paul1981]

It's 20 years on, and Amiga freaks are still bitching about a succesful operating system.

Can AmigaOS run Photoshop? Is Cubase available for AmigaOS? Is AmigaOS relevant to professional life? Does the younger generation hang on deprecated operating systems or do they just need an up to date computer as a tool to do their work?

I don't really care what the younger generation does.
Commodore-Amiga is a professional brand of machines. Out of date now, yes. It's a bit like having an old Rolls Royce.... still feels nice to take her for a ride.
I see you're a new member on here. Nice to meet you.

[danwood]

there isn't a single os that doesn't crash

ftfy

[acmn]

What I like in Amiga and what is still missing in Windows is the ability to program F-keys
(and other keys too) freely using Exchange and Fkey. E.g.: In my setup pressing F5 writes
my username and pressing F6 the password for amiga.org.

F1: Run program
      C:Avail flush >CON:0/0/208/88/Flush/WAIT/CLOSE

F2: Run ARexx script
      Work:REXX/CloseAllDrawers.rexx Work:REXX/CloseActiveWin.rexx

...

F12: Cycle screens forward

...MK

[itix]

What I like in Amiga and what is still missing in Windows is the ability to program F-keys
(and other keys too) freely using Exchange and Fkey. E.g.: In my setup pressing F5 writes
my username and pressing F6 the password for amiga.org.

F1: Run program
      C:Avail flush >CON:0/0/208/88/Flush/WAIT/CLOSE

F2: Run ARexx script
      Work:REXX/CloseAllDrawers.rexx Work:REXX/CloseActiveWin.rexx

...

F12: Cycle screens forward

...MK

It is not necessarily good idea because applications can implement other functions to those keys.

[acmn]

Well, anyway, the option is there and that's what I like...I like it...

[asymetrix]

What I like in Amiga and what is still missing in Windows is the ability to program F-keys
(and other keys too) freely using Exchange and Fkey. E.g.: In my setup pressing F5 writes
my username and pressing F6 the password for amiga.org.

F1: Run program
      C:Avail flush >CON:0/0/208/88/Flush/WAIT/CLOSE

F2: Run ARexx script
      Work:REXX/CloseAllDrawers.rexx Work:REXX/CloseActiveWin.rexx

...

F12: Cycle screens forward

...MK

Of course you can and more !

http://www.autohotkey.com/

You can assign full scripts with full control.

If you need more power, use autoit which records all keypresses and mouse movements that can be played back - something that cannot be done on Amiga.

With Autoit one can run apps, select options etc anything and have it repeat those actions.

http://www.autoitscript.com/site/autoit/

Its really good when I control my character in an online game to eat some special cakes for energy via an NPC repeatedly via a push of a button  ;-)

If one does not want to use other programs, simple modify the registry for a more permanent assignment.

For remembering passwords I use RoboForm which automatically signs me in when i'm on websites - no user response.
I have over 50+ sites listed.

http://www.roboform.com

Some people really should educate themselves on what Windows can really do !

Like it or not, be thankful for Windows, without it there would be no FireFox and thus no Timberwolf.= and not to mention countless other apps being ported or even apps ffrom other platforms that have been inspired by Windows.

Im not saying Windows is great, far from it - no Operating System is great, they never will be, and thats the whole point - apps and User Interfaces and expectations change, evolve and improve into better ways of doing things.
This constant evolving and enhancing will always be there to the end of time, the only limit applications have is the creative freedom of developers who work tirelessly with the tools they have and the limits of the day.
Tirelessly pushing barriers into the unknown and limited only by their knowledge and inspiration.

[commodorejohn]

Like it or not, be thankful for Windows, without it there would be no FireFox and thus no Timberwolf.= and not to mention countless other apps being ported or even apps ffrom other platforms that have been inspired by Windows.

I'm all for Windows, but you realize Mozilla was developed on Unix derivatives, right?

[acmn]

Yes, I am aware of http://www.autohotkey.com/. But hey, that is not a commodity found
in Windows , it's a third part sw you have to install yourself...I wonder why...MK

[psxphill]

Yes, I am aware of http://www.autohotkey.com/. But hey, that is not a commodity found
in Windows , it's a third part sw you have to install yourself...I wonder why...MK

Because Microsoft didn't waste time on writing their own.
 
If you're going to argue that only software bundled with the OS counts then your AmigaOS experience is going to be very limited.

[acmn]

Only said that this commodity is not included in Windows...that's all...

BTW, shouldn't we make difference between operating system and sofware that is running
on it. Software in Windows is great but os itself is not. It is clumsy. monolithic and too huge
...that is how I see it as a long time user...MK

[psxphill]

Only said that this commodity is not included in Windows...that's all...
 
BTW, shouldn't we make difference between operating system and sofware that is running
on it. Software in Windows is great but os itself is not. It is clumsy. monolithic and too huge
...that is how I see it as a long time user...MK

That wasn't all you said. You wondered why & I answered your question.
 
Windows isn't monolithic. You can select which parts to install/uninstall. Something AmigaOS has a major problem with.
 
But it has more functionality than AmigaOS so it's going to be bigger. Linux was also smaller when it started and has grown with age. AmigaOS would have too, if it had been financially viable.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by clumsy. While 12 years ago I was still regularly using an Amiga 1200, I find it much easier to use Windows these days.

[acmn]

By "monolithic" I mean that I can't see any organisation in C:\WINDOWS folder. It's a
total mess and I can't find any documentation to explain the meaning of folders
and files in it. Situation is totally different with amigaos...MK

[LoadWB]

By "monolithic" I mean that I can't see any organisation in C:\WINDOWS folder. It's a
total mess and I can't find any documentation to explain the meaning of folders
and files in it. Situation is totally different with amigaos...MK

You just have to be careful with using terms like "monolithic" related to operating systems as it has a very specific meaning.

Other than that, there is an organization to the WINDOWS directory.  That it's all in one directory may be a little disconcerting and it does tend to get cluttered with old stuff.  None the less there is a structure to it.