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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #329 from previous page: May 08, 2012, 06:49:14 PM »
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Franko over at amigaworld.net

"I was kinda hoping that no one would have made that public on the forums as I've been waiting since last September for "someone" to try and officially issue a Cease & Desist or warning not to use the Amiga trademark which became "dead" on the 19th of September 2011...

Oh well, the cats out of the bag now but I'm surprised Barry didn't want to pay the fees to re-register it as he knew the Trademark was dead as I had mentioned it to him)...

So now that everyone knows it's dead then I don't suppose you'll be receiving any legal correspondence from CUSA now {even they wouldn't be daft enough to try that, would they !!!)...

Been thinking about registering it myself since last year and basically licensing it for a fee of penny to people in the community to use for their projects (that way it would end all this BS by CUSA), perhaps it's time I did so as Barry obviously has no intentions of paying the fee...

I need to decide if it's worth the fees just to finally put an end to all this BS once and for all, what do you think... "

Well this got interesting lol. Hell I would buy a license off him, print hundreds of stickers and paste my house in them.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #330 on: May 08, 2012, 06:57:41 PM »
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According to the United States Patent and Trademark Office, the Amiga trademark was abandoned as of September 19, 2011.



you should look up Amigaone and AmigaOS... ;)
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #332 on: May 08, 2012, 07:10:24 PM »
Serious question, and I don't mean this is anyway threateningly....

.. but if Leo knew that C=USA didn't own the trademark, isn't what he did illegal?

Worst of all, because of his disclaimer in his signature that he doesn't represent C=USA, doesn't that make him personally liable?  Surely it's illegal to go around brow-beating people who want to use an expired trademark that you don't own anyway?

Edit: just to be clear, I'm not suggesting that anybody go and sue anybody else, far from it. I just want to know if this behaviour is actually illegal or not.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #333 on: May 08, 2012, 07:13:57 PM »
Actually.....He made me spend a whole day editing the video and photos... :(
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #334 on: May 08, 2012, 07:17:09 PM »
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Actually.....He made me spend a whole day editing the video and photos... :(


Send him a bill.  ;)
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #335 on: May 08, 2012, 07:20:30 PM »
As the use of the trademarks is all CUSA really has (had?) they figured they'd play the big men and show off with their posturing as the rightful owners.  Carrion birds.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #336 on: May 08, 2012, 07:22:52 PM »
As someone on AW.net has just pointed out, the trademark is only dead for software.

So just to be clear, the Amiga trademark IS still valid.

And you know what it's valid for?

(From the patents office)
"COMPUTERS, COMPUTER DISK DRIVES, RAM EXPANSION CARTRIDGES, COMPUTER MONITORS, AND COMPUTER MODEMS"

Strikes me that TheDaddy's case does *not* fall under any of the above. A case is not a computer, a disk drive, a RAM expansion, a monitor nor a modem.

In other words, he can call his case "an Amiga" in whatever style or font he wants. He can even use the logo with the red square if he wants, because that one has expired.

So there - C=USA licensed the rights to make Amiga computers, but NOT cases.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #337 on: May 08, 2012, 07:29:12 PM »
Sell a floppy disk or CD with some little "hello world" program and use the case as packaging.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #338 on: May 08, 2012, 07:42:45 PM »
Don't even need to do that. If they'd done like Asus (for example) did and license it for "G & S: parts for computers." it'd be different. But they were specific and they excluded computer cases.
The case can be called "Amiga". Just don't put a motherboard in it because then they would have grounds.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #339 on: May 08, 2012, 07:44:04 PM »
Quote from: spirantho;692360
As someone on AW.net has just pointed out, the trademark is only dead for software.

So just to be clear, the Amiga trademark IS still valid.

And you know what it's valid for?

(From the patents office)
"COMPUTERS, COMPUTER DISK DRIVES, RAM EXPANSION CARTRIDGES, COMPUTER MONITORS, AND COMPUTER MODEMS"

Strikes me that TheDaddy's case does *not* fall under any of the above. A case is not a computer, a disk drive, a RAM expansion, a monitor nor a modem.

In other words, he can call his case "an Amiga" in whatever style or font he wants. He can even use the logo with the red square if he wants, because that one has expired.

So there - C=USA licensed the rights to make Amiga computers, but NOT cases.


That trademark is registered to AMIGA, INC. CORPORATION WASHINGTON, which has been bankrupt for many years and has released no products for over 5 years. It is abandoned, just nobody has bothered to do the paperwork.
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #340 on: May 08, 2012, 09:06:33 PM »
Still this thread going?. What a waste...
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #341 on: May 08, 2012, 09:36:32 PM »
Hmm.. BigBentheAussie is pretty unprofessional.  Indicative of how CommodoreUSA is run??  So what does this BigBen do for CUSA, living in Australia?  I thought CUSA is
in Florida.

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #342 on: May 08, 2012, 10:07:49 PM »
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Hmm.. BigBentheAussie is pretty unprofessional.  Indicative of how CommodoreUSA is run??  So what does this BigBen do for CUSA, living in Australia?  I thought CUSA is
in Florida.


BigBentheAussie is Leo Nigro - CTO of Commodore USA.  Unsure how he does his job from across the world.

http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_Corporate.aspx
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #343 on: May 08, 2012, 10:19:31 PM »
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BigBentheAussie is Leo Nigro - CTO of Commodore USA.  Unsure how he does his job from across the world.

http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_Corporate.aspx


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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #344 on: May 08, 2012, 10:20:41 PM »
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@Darrin and the confused BAF's



Some of you guys are really incredible, do you know that?


It takes one to know one I guess. Only you could manage to turn this into an excuse to take a shot at anything you perceive as being associated in any way whatsoever, no matter how tenuously, to OS4.

A guy made a case for a wedge system. It could contain anything. A PC, a Rasberry Pi, minimig, Sam. You could probably fillet a PPC mac mini and get it in there, or an efika. He showed some pictures of it with some stickers resting on it and CUSA got a touch of butthurt over it.

I must have missed the part where this is became about BAFs.

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