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AmigaSYS, ClassicWB or plain standard 3.1?
« on: December 15, 2011, 02:32:51 PM »
I was seeing pictures of AmigaSYS and it looks really nice. Nicer than ClassicWB in my opinion.

My questions are:

Is AmigaSYS better than ClassicWB and why?

Do i have to format my System folder and re-install from scratch ?

Will it slow down my Amiga in any way?

Will it look and work nice on an A1200 '040 @ 28Mhz, 16Mb fast ram connected to a Commodore 1084S ?
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Re: AmigaSYS, ClassicWB or plain standard 3.1?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2011, 02:47:13 PM »
I have a page with a lot of text and descriptions and screenshots covering both.

http://www.natami-news.de/html/support.html

(still in development :-) ).

To answer shortly... I use it emulated on a fast PC so I cannot compare it. Amikit has more features/preinstalled software and is really nice but also needs a lot of resources (I think 68060 and graphic card and more RAM recommended). AmigaSys is more lightwided and there also exists a AGA-Version, so without graphic-card I would prefer AmigaSys. For those who want the "3.1."-Look I would recommend BetterWB.

P.S. I overread that you want AmigaSys or BetterWB. "Better" is relative, BetterWB is lightwide and does not change anything at the user interface (just modernize and add programms and patches), AmigaSYS is offering a rich-gui with preinstalled software and a better and more attractive user-interface.

I have none of theses installed on "real" hardware so I cannot say much about this. Propably you need a clean install. They should both run on your system.
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Re: AmigaSYS, ClassicWB or plain standard 3.1?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2011, 03:24:02 PM »
I found AmiKit a pain to install on a real Amiga and gave up.  I do have some new instructions somewhere so I'm planning to give it another go.

ClassicWB for me was very straight forward, looks nice and responds fast even on lower end machines.  I've used it on 68020, 68030 and 68040 machines as well as on my Minimig v1.1 (68000), Chameleon64 and FPGA Arcade.

Best of all, ClassicWB is already configured to use KillaGorilla's WHDLoad game & demo packs.  Just copy the packs into the GAMES and then add the Kickstart ROMs into the folder.
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Re: AmigaSYS, ClassicWB or plain standard 3.1?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2011, 03:33:59 PM »
he is interested in AmigaSys or BetterWB. AmigaSys could work on his A1200 (there is a AGA-Version). But it is a matter of taste if chosing AmigaSys or BetterWB there.
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Re: AmigaSYS, ClassicWB or plain standard 3.1?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2011, 03:39:23 PM »
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he is interested in AmigaSys or BetterWB. AmigaSys could work on his A1200 (there is a AGA-Version). But it is a matter of taste if chosing AmigaSys or BetterWB there.


I'm sorry but he says:

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Is AmigaSYS better than ClassicWB and why?


I read ClassicWB there, not BetterWB.  :confused:

You're the only one who has mentioned BetterWB.
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Re: AmigaSYS, ClassicWB or plain standard 3.1?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2011, 03:45:44 PM »
sorry... I have worked too much with different distributions :-)

Is ClassicWB still supported? I have contact to the authors/maintainers of Amikit and BetterWB, but no contact to the maintainer of AmigaSys and ClassicWB (i sent emails but got no answer)
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Re: AmigaSYS, ClassicWB or plain standard 3.1?
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2011, 03:57:23 PM »
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sorry... I have worked too much with different distributions :-)

Is ClassicWB still supported? I have contact to the authors/maintainers of Amikit and BetterWB, but no contact to the maintainer of AmigaSys and ClassicWB (i sent emails but got no answer)


LOL.  No problem.  I was wondering if I was losing it too.  :D

As far as I'm aware ClassicWB still gets updates.  Here's a post from EAB where Bloodwych keeps a ClassicWB thread:

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Update Status

1st Mar 2011 - All Packs Updated. Main changes:

Version Info: v26 -> version 26 - update revision 0

v26

BorderBlank kicks in when Copper is disabled
LHA Updated to 2011 bug fixed version
ECS friendly OOBE (Out of Box Experience) - 16 colours max and Copper disabled options
Three palette choices, different wallpaper designs depending on choice (Ex. GAAE, 68K)
CyberBugFixAGA added to 3.5/9 versions (Not required in Scalos) saving 60K Chipram
AGLaunch added to menus and Multi-Boot options - thanks Zetro!
WHDLoad 17 (beta - required for AGLaunch)
Rebel's Optimized Palette (thanks Rebel & Cammy) added to all versions (Ex. GAAE, 68K)
Run menus updated and reorganized slightly
Cosmos beta SCSI-device added to LargeHD drawer (development ongoing)
Sticky Right Mouse button option in Scalos Versions
Visual Prefs added in OS3.5/9 versions
Image Studio in P96 version with palettes to design wallpapers for all other versions
Brand new Install Routine with requesters
Ram icon can be snapshot in OS3.5/9 versions (forgot all about this!)
Some bad links on the Buttonmenus fixed


I see Rebel & Cammy are also helping out.
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