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Re: A1200 going online
« Reply #44 from previous page: January 19, 2012, 01:36:52 PM »
Ok so i copied the easynet files onto cf card and then onto 1200 hd in my works drawer on wb, called easynet drawer.

When i double click on the install icon it launches the easynet installer, then when i click proceed it tells me to insert easynet in any drive!!!

Is this because it came to me on cd and the driver is looking for the cd to install from? How do i get round this?

(i don't have a cd drive for my 1200 and can't imagine why amigakit are using cd to install from)
 

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Re: A1200 going online
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2012, 01:59:51 PM »
I am trying to remember how I did it but are you familiar with how to use assigns? You can probably just assign the easynet volume name to wherever you copied the files.
 

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Re: A1200 going online
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2012, 02:19:51 PM »
Hey buddy, are you saying I need to run an assign in my s:start-up?
 
How did others install easynet from cd if they don't have cd drives? Somebody had suggested saving the easynet cd as an iso image on pc then copy to cf? Does this fool the 1200 into thinking the easynet file is in a cd drive?
 
Why have amigakit put this sotware on cd?? When will they move into the 21st century and give it as a download with a keyfile that can be installed to the 1200 via cf pcmcia?!
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Re: A1200 going online
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2012, 05:43:19 PM »
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Hey buddy, are you saying I need to run an assign in my s:start-up?
 
How did others install easynet from cd if they don't have cd drives? Somebody had suggested saving the easynet cd as an iso image on pc then copy to cf? Does this fool the 1200 into thinking the easynet file is in a cd drive?
 
Why have amigakit put this sotware on cd?? When will they move into the 21st century and give it as a download with a keyfile that can be installed to the 1200 via cf pcmcia?!

Im trying to remember what I did, but try adding it as an assign in your user startup. Alternatively you can just execute it as a command, but that wont survive a reboot of course.
 
I've used that to fool the system to believe that something on a CF card or hard drive is actually a CD, since most times, the amiga just looks for the volume name, which can of course be any device.
 

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Re: A1200 going online
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2012, 08:05:10 PM »
Hey, can you let me know when you remember as I'm stuck at this point at the moment :(
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Re: A1200 going online
« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2012, 11:03:49 PM »
Wow,

I have spent 4 hours trying to get my 1200 online and it has defeated me. No matter what i do i just can't get amitcp stack sorted. I have installed the binaries and the additional files, inserted my ip and gateway address and installed easynet as best i could but every time i double click easynet the program looks for amitcp and then fails.

Soo i need to remove smb-net from my wb...everytime wb loads up i get a msg that says...........  

Program "SMB-NET" has not yet returned. Do you want to wait some more?

How do i get rid of this or remove smbnet? I can't delete it as it seems to have appeared as an icon on my wb and won't let me delete (OS 3.9)

Any advice?
 

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Re: A1200 going online
« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2012, 01:43:00 AM »
My advice is to use Miami Deluxe, it has a simple Wizard that walks you through the setup the first time you run it after installing. It is also better and more powerful than AmiTCP 3.2b which is included with EasyNet.

MiamiDX (TCP/IP) - http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/MiamiDx10cmain
MiamiDX GUI - http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/MiamiDx10c-MUI
MiamiDX Keyfile - http://www.fatcat.vispa.com/keyring/

Dynamite (Online Game) - http://amisource.de/dynamite/

Grunch (Package manager) - http://www.geit.de/eng_grunch.html

Once you get online, run Grunch and it will give you a list of available software, libraries and updates that you can install to make your system more up-to-date.
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Re: A1200 going online
« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2012, 12:45:09 PM »
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Wow,

I have spent 4 hours trying to get my 1200 online and it has defeated me. No matter what i do i just can't get amitcp stack sorted. I have installed the binaries and the additional files, inserted my ip and gateway address and installed easynet as best i could but every time i double click easynet the program looks for amitcp and then fails.

Soo i need to remove smb-net from my wb...everytime wb loads up i get a msg that says...........  

Program "SMB-NET" has not yet returned. Do you want to wait some more?

How do i get rid of this or remove smbnet? I can't delete it as it seems to have appeared as an icon on my wb and won't let me delete (OS 3.9)

Any advice?


I have come to this late so sorry for that... Have you got SnoopDOS running and Scout.. plus did you use the cardreset tool for the PCMCIA bug... thinks you were running the card from there. And have you DNS on auto.

Get Miami or Genesis if you don't already and remember the card needs to be online before you try anything. You need to set one card up for networking and the other for broadband and maybe one for dialup. With auto the network is invisible. With samba I don't get the broadband. Its one or tother. I also have my own scripts for handshaking with PCs and the like. Scout and or Snoop will tell you the fail point.

When I go online my Amiga can never resolve the IP issues but just bulldozes through with MiamiDX... Same with Genesis. I just had to change the one setting to auto from the net set up and I went online straight away.

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Re: A1200 going online
« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2012, 09:47:49 PM »
Ok so i am going down the miami route (which was my initial thoughts after other people's recommendations) and i have installed all the miami software including gui 3.8.

When i come to initialise miami i see no set up wizard, but an initialisation file so i double click on this and it brings up a plethora of options as to what my connections could be - modem, isdn board - serial driver, parallel, null modem, ethernet cable/adsl modem, arcnet.

So i choose ethernet which is what i thought my connection was via the pcmcia card and then it gives my various options commodore/cei a2065 unit 1, 2, 3, 4 or other. None of the commodore options work, so now i'm stuck.

I hoped the set-up wizard would do all this for me, nevertheless initial impressions are that miami is more user friendly than easynet. (Using easynet and amitcp caused significant system instability on my OS 3.9)

So i think i need a little helping hand from experienced miami users :)

(my card is an Etherlink III LAN PC Card for 10BASE-T and coaxial cable 3C589C) connected to a broadband ethernet router
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Re: A1200 going online
« Reply #53 on: January 30, 2012, 07:27:34 PM »
ok, I have installed 3c589 all ok. (my card software)

When i double click on miami initialisation file, i now enter  ethernet/modem as my option and then i click other and type in  "3c589.device"

It then tells me it is contacting RArp server (loading)

and then gives me a subnet mask to confirm, which corresponds with my pc  subnet mask so i click continue and......., i just get the clock icon  continuously as if its thinking but not getting any further.

Its all plugged in, the pcmcia card and the wire from the card to the router. (the light on the card is on green continuously)

Any suggestions how i proceed, as i feel like i'm nearly there !
 

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Re: A1200 going online
« Reply #54 on: January 31, 2012, 12:08:54 AM »
You might be better off not using MiamiInit (or whatever it's called). Just start Miami, go to the Interface settings, and make sure 3c589.device is used there.
 

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Re: A1200 going online
« Reply #55 on: January 31, 2012, 12:39:30 AM »
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You might be better off not using MiamiInit (or whatever it's called). Just start Miami, go to the Interface settings, and make sure 3c589.device is used there.


That's really unhelpful, can't you elaborate? Why is he better off not using MiamiInit? How is he supposed to figure out the rest of the settings just by running Miami and making sure the right device is in there? Where does he look to find it?

My advice is just to keep trying with MiamiInit and re-read the documentation. I would walk you through it myself but if I keep repeating myself on forums and IRC instead of letting people work it out for themselves as I originally had to, I'll never get time to finish coding all the new Amiga programs I'm working on. I'm not trying to be rude but I never have any time to myself when everyone is always begging me to solve their problems for them.
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Re: A1200 going online
« Reply #56 on: January 31, 2012, 01:11:09 AM »
I supose that you are using a 3com pcmcia card, i have three of them, tested on a portable pc and works fine, on the a1200 side just two work fine, with no reason or significant errors, sometimes pcmcia card give a response to the miamidx query and sometimes no, just a mistery.
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Re: A1200 going online
« Reply #57 on: February 01, 2012, 02:38:47 AM »
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That's really unhelpful, can't you elaborate? Why is he better off not using MiamiInit? How is he supposed to figure out the rest of the settings just by running Miami and making sure the right device is in there? Where does he look to find it?


I just remember having trouble with MiamiInit in the past, and find it better to use the main settings GUI. And Snoozy seems to be getting bombarded with obsolete options such as Arcnet, A2065-only Ethernet etc., not to mention that it's hanging on him.

Here's more information about using the main GUI: start Miami, and click on the Interface button. Set Interface Type to SANA-II Ethernet, and enter 3c589.device in the Driver box. Set IP, Netmask and Gateway to DHCP. Click OK.

Then click on the Database button, choose DNS Servers from the drop-down list, and enter your router's IP address. Click OK. Go to the Settings menu and select 'Save as default'. Click on the Online button.

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My advice is just to keep trying with MiamiInit and re-read the documentation. I would walk you through it myself but if I keep repeating myself on forums and IRC instead of letting people work it out for themselves as I originally had to, I'll never get time to finish coding all the new Amiga programs I'm working on. I'm not trying to be rude but I never have any time to myself when everyone is always begging me to solve their problems for them.


Me too. That's exactly why I didn't give a fuller answer last time. But I thought a nudge in the right direction was better than nothing.
 

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Re: A1200 going online
« Reply #58 on: February 01, 2012, 03:07:20 AM »
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Wow,

I have spent 4 hours trying to get my 1200 online and it has defeated me. No matter what i do i just can't get amitcp stack sorted. I have installed the binaries and the additional files, inserted my ip and gateway address and installed easynet as best i could but every time i double click easynet the program looks for amitcp and then fails.

Soo i need to remove smb-net from my wb...everytime wb loads up i get a msg that says...........  

Program "SMB-NET" has not yet returned. Do you want to wait some more?

How do i get rid of this or remove smbnet? I can't delete it as it seems to have appeared as an icon on my wb and won't let me delete (OS 3.9)

Any advice?


smb-net does that on mine too. remove it from wbstartup and put it in tools or something. I think that might be something to do with scalos. Anyway, run it manually when needed, as it still is a useful tool. I have it set up to connect to my windows7 box...
 

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Re: A1200 going online
« Reply #59 on: February 01, 2012, 09:24:12 PM »
Well there's no doubting the fact that running miaminit caused my system to hang, i found out that at the verification stage of miamiinit you should press enter (rather than click on continue - where you can guarantee it will hang) I got as far as naming my connection on miaminit (ie almost at the end) and it would always hang, soooooo

Back to googling and come across one of thomas's previous postings (nearly 10 years ago)

  (see entry 18th Nov 2003 22:42)

http://eab.abime.net/archive/index.php/t-11591.html

and 3 days ago i have managed to get miami online (finally)
 
and although my status on miami tells me i am online, when i try to web  browse with Aweb, it gives an error while retrieving url, cannot resolve  host name.

Is it possible to have miami online and still not have it communicate with aweb?         so now, i am in the process of trying miami with ibrowse....

btw, my card is an Etherlink III LAN PC Card for 10BASE-T and coaxial cable 3C589C) connected to a broadband ethernet router

But still the same problem with ibrowse - "Host lookup failed, no DNS entry found." Thomas !! Help!!
« Last Edit: February 01, 2012, 11:08:24 PM by Snoozy »