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Amiga Sources
« on: December 01, 2011, 06:20:25 AM »
Have any of the companies that used to write software for the Amiga ever released any of their source code?

I've seen it happen here and that, but not nearly as much as I'd expect. Such things would be good for AROS and prolly OS 4 and MorphOS too.
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Re: Amiga Sources
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2011, 06:36:42 AM »
Most companies are not used to giving away their hard and paid for work to everyone for free, no matter how old it is.  I would guess that most of the Amiga specific companies went out of business a very long time ago, so even finding someone who has the source code for any of that early software might be difficult.

I would guess that most of them have put the Amiga far behind them as an economic necessity and (if they were any good) if they remained in the business of writing software, they were forced to switch to Windows, MacOSX, Games Consoles, or proprietary software for businesses that for the most part all use only x86 hardware.  They may not even have an Amiga any longer and might not have kept a backup of their Amiga source code.  It is sad to think about the amount of Amiga source code that has probably been lost forever over the last 15+ years.
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Re: Amiga Sources
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2011, 07:15:09 AM »
They'd rather dump it in the bin than give it away.

I've seen people who had Amiga stuff not sell me their stuff but later dump them. (I wanted to buy 25 Phyton1 joysticks for 100$ in 2002 from a computer store in Turkey because the person working there said those were taking up space in his shop. A year later I asked again and he said he threw them to the trash.

A similar thing happened. I asked a local tv to sell me their Amiga4000 and two A1200's in Ateo tower with accelerators (I think they might have had 060's or worse yet BlizzardPPCs in them). They did not sell them although they were not being used anymore. Later I learned that they actually "destroyed" them.

When people spend a lot of money on something and later if that thing becomes useless, barely useful or not attracting much attention anymore, they either choose to not share it with anyone interested or they choose to destroy it if they no longer care.

It's a combination of two human traits that makes them act. The second strongest of these is called "hoarding" and the first one "revenge". they are hard coded to our genes from prehistoric times.

It's bad... Me? I'm not like that. I gave my BlizzardPPC to a friend for free when I got myself an A4000T just so that we could share the fun of discovering new things. He stopped using Amiga and also spoiled the BlizzardPPC and gave it back to me (I actually gifted it to him but he thought that I lended it to him)



About this subject:

When I make a song, I share it and would never ask any money for it. Because I do it for the music itself. Not for my self.  After I make a song which I really like, I step away from the speakers and watch it and admire it. It may sound weird but that's true :) It felt different at first but now it's like this is what everybody should do. After you become the medium to make something create itself and give you joy in doing so in return, it's not any different than your own self.

If I were to write a program, I would never hide the source code "even if I sell the program for a living". I would write the program for itself to make it better and feel proud. I'd then ask others to make it better if they wanted to.

After all that I would do is to order numbers together and I can not own the "ordering of numbers". People think inspiration and hard work is something they actually achieve. I know that none of them are inside us. They belong to a common source and we all share it and borrow from there. We can never own them, and we should never own them.

If you are actually doing it to earn money, it'll end up twisted. If you do it because you want to love it, you'll want to share it in the end if you are allowed to.
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Re: Amiga Sources
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2011, 07:27:56 AM »
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They'd rather dump it in the bin than give it away.


Not always, often the company can't release the source immediately due to copyright issues (etc.), and then by the time they are in a position to give the source code away...it's already been lost, for any number of legitimate reasons (and simple carelessness).

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Re: Amiga Sources
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2011, 03:18:38 PM »
NewTek released pretty much everything.  The whole Video Toaster/Flyer suite plus DigiPaint.

http://www.discreetfx.com/openvideotoaster.html
 

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Re: Amiga Sources
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2011, 03:21:24 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;669709
Have any of the companies that used to write software for the Amiga ever released any of their source code?

I've seen it happen here and that, but not nearly as much as I'd expect. Such things would be good for AROS and prolly OS 4 and MorphOS too.


Team 17 released the full source code for Alien Breed 3d II.
 

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Re: Amiga Sources
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2011, 07:04:08 PM »
Most of what's been released is on Aminet.
 

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Re: Amiga Sources
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2011, 07:08:58 PM »
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Team 17 released the full source code for Alien Breed 3d II.


The Alien Breed source has been released and no one bothered to play with it, attempted to make it ATI and RTG compatible or anything?! Or has this been done? I'd LOVE to see it running on MorphOS if possible!
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Re: Amiga Sources
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2011, 07:38:56 PM »
Lol, I don't know what I expected, but I downloaded to the Toaster Paint code to see how they did a few things and it's all in assembly. In hindsight this makes sense, but since I really can't read much assembly it shows how little that code will do for me in the mean time. :)
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Re: Amiga Sources
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2011, 08:00:00 PM »
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They'd rather dump it in the bin than give it away.

When people spend a lot of money on something and later if that thing becomes useless, barely useful or not attracting much attention anymore, they either choose to not share it with anyone interested or they choose to destroy it if they no longer care.

It's a combination of two human traits that makes them act. The second strongest of these is called "hoarding" and the first one "revenge". they are hard coded to our genes from prehistoric times.
Tragically true. There's a guy a couple hours from where I live that had a massive Amiga hoard he wanted to get rid of - but he didn't want to split any of it. I managed to cajole him into selling me one bare-bones A2000 system, but he wouldn't even sell an accelerator for what I could afford, and told me that it was going to the dump if he didn't sell it. It was literally worth nothing to him, and he still wouldn't let anyone else have it :(
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Re: Amiga Sources
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2011, 08:00:31 PM »
happens all the time... when I quit my job after my old company had been bought by a certain red/bad one... I asked how about taking my 2 monitors with me free/payedfor... answer: no, we are going to destroy all the excess equipment because if we give/sell it to you and it fails you would sue us - for the same reason the old equipment was not given to charity either

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Re: Amiga Sources
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2011, 09:23:57 PM »
Wow an entire amiga hoard going to the dump? That is too bad. I wouldn't do that with my own hoard and would rather others got good use out of the stuff instead.