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Offline SquirrelM@ster

Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?
« on: November 17, 2011, 07:00:01 PM »
I searched and didn't find any such threads...
 
For everyone who has hooked up their Amiga to a monitor/ TV, please...please, share how you did it, so others can do the same thing without buying a monitor only to find out that they have to return it.
 
1) Which Amiga do you have? 500, 1000, 1200?
 
2) Which monitor, TV are you using? Model #?
 
3) Did you use an adapter? Which one?
 
4) How did you get everything to work together?
 
5) Please share pics.
 
This thread can be a collection for all the info, rather than scattered on the forum.
 
As for me, I have an Amiga 500 and am currently looking for a flatscreen TV for it. If I find anything that works, I'll share it, as well.
 
Thanks!
« Last Edit: November 18, 2011, 06:42:28 PM by SquirrelM@ster »
 

Offline ChaosLord

Re: Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2011, 07:08:26 PM »
Quote from: SquirrelM@ster;668194
I searched and didn't find any such threads...
 
For everyone who has hooked up their Amiga to a monitor/ TV, please...please, share how you did it, so others can do the same thing without buying a monitor only to find out that they have to return it.
 
1) Which Amiga do you have? 500, 1000, 1200?
 
All

Quote
2) Which monitor, TV are you using? Model #?
 
Amiga 1084S, NEC Multisync 75

Quote
3) Did you use an adapter? Which one?
 
1084S requires NO adapter whatsoever and it supports all Amiga 500 modes.
NEC Multisync 75 requires a flickerfixer.  It supports all Amiga FlickerFixer video modes.
I can play any NTSC or PAL game on either monitor.

Quote
4) How did you get everything to work together?
 
plug & play 5 minutes
Wanna try a wonderfull strategy game with lots of handdrawn anims,
Magic Spells and Monsters, Incredible playability and lastability,
English speech, etc. Total Chaos AGA
 

Offline marcfrick2112

Re: Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2011, 07:35:25 PM »
Hey there, Well I feel this is a great thread idea! Esp, if we could amass a single master list of all known Amiga-compatible monitors!

I have a 20" Toshiba TIMM MM20E45 TV/multisync monitor with built-in speakers, and even a subwoofer!

BRIEF DESCRIPTION     An Amiga compatible 20 inch (500mm) combination multisync monitor and television set.  The horizontal scan rates for the RGB monitor are from 15kHz to 40kHz with vertical scan rates of 50-90Hz. 15kHz NTSC composite and SVHS video inputs along with built in stereo sound complete the feature set.

I managed to con my dad into buying it originally for my heavily-expanded
Amiga 500... It cost $500.00 , which was a great deal back then for a 20"

As for getting it to work... I just used a standard 15-pin VGA cable, and a standard
Commodore silver VGA adapter. Funny, when the monitor arrived, there was NO cable,
 I called Toshiba, they said they don't ship cables anymore with them,
 but happily FedEx'd me a VGA cable for free! Good Company.

One thing, tho, the TIMM needs a Sync Strainer adapter for Toaster use.

  Gotta say, this monitor is the BOMB! True Multisync, handles any resoulution you can throw at it,
about the only monitor that I can safely risk using MonEd with...
I have moved my TIMM to whatever the most capable Amiga in the house is!
Sorry, the pic isn't that great.... but it IS just a big beige box, anyway..
I thought my feeble A1200T's Workbench might be a better pic!
---------------
Marc Frick
---------------
A1200T / \'060, 256MB, CD-R, OS3.9
A4000 w/ WarpEngine / 82MB , OS3.1
A4000 16MB, OS 3.9
A1200 , \'030 / 10MB
A1200 (stock)

CD32 :)

...And a very sick 4000T
 

Offline Lord Aga

Re: Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2011, 07:46:01 PM »
Sharp LC42DH77E works fine with VGA and SCART. It syncs down to 15KHz.
Glory to the loud-mouthed Scotsman !
 

Offline mrmoonlight

Re: Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2011, 08:10:35 PM »
Hi i have a Amiga 1200 and i use a scart lead bought from Amigakit ,and it is connected to a 19inch hd ready  dolby digital bush tv and its a brilliant picture ,best wishes Brian.:laughing:
Amiga 1200 E-Matrix 32 bit Fast-Ram 20 gb wd harddrive
Amiga 1200 Compact Flash CF IDE Back Plate Adapter
 
Hisoft promidi Interface
MP3 MAS player
Amiga 600
ACA620EC Accelerator Kipper/type
CF 4GB
C/F HD
 Pioneer CD/DVD
Hisoft promidi Interface
 

Offline Nostalgiac

Re: Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2011, 08:38:40 PM »
30" Dell top-screen (model from 2010) connected via VGA to my A2000 with A2320 and C64-3D delivers a brilliant pic (not filling the entire width of the screen though)

Tom UK
2000/2060/128mb/2320/2gb/C64-3D/Hydra-Aminet on OS 3.9

c128/1541/1750/1351 with Dolphin Dos and eprom burner
 

Offline scuzzb494

Re: Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2011, 08:48:44 PM »
Quote from: SquirrelM@ster;668194
I searched and didn't find any such threads...
 
For everyone who has hooked up their Amiga to a monitor/ TV, please...please, share how you did it, so others can do the same thing without buying a monitor only to find out that they have to return it.
 
1) Which Amiga do you have? 500, 1000, 1200?
 
2) Which monitor, TV are you using? Model #?
 
3) Did you use an adapter? Which one?
 
4) How did you get everything to work together?
 
5) Please share pics.
 
This thread can be a collection for all the info, rather than scattered on the forum.
 
As for me, I have an Amiga 500 and am currently looking for a TV for it. If I find anything that works. I'll share it, as well.
 
Thanks!

1: I have every Amiga model of computer... Many times.
2: Native I use a Microvitec... A4000s use a Picasso IV and Mitsubishi or IIyima
3: No adaptors ... I just plug the Amiga or Graphics card into the monitor
4: I just plugged it in, though the Picasso uses software.

Monitors:
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz43.htm
Microvitec: Mitsubishi: Iiyima:
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz328.htm
1084s Checkmate:
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/a_scuzz_may22/a_scuzz_jun06_02.jpg
A1200: Microvitec
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz55f.htm
A500: Philips
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz91.htm

PS You will not really get a stock Amiga to run on a PC monitor without a graphics card.

PPS Composite Jack: The Amiga was a video editing tool of the late 80s early 90s

A1200:

VIDEO port A 23-pin male port for attaching an analog RGB
monitor to view the Amiga`s video output
COMP jack An RCA jack for attaching a composite video
monitor or connecting a vido cassette recorder.
RF MODULATOR An RCA jack for connecting to a television.
The associated controls vary depending on whether the Amiga
is NTSC or PAL

VIDEO
VIDEO port Analog RGB monitor (multiscan/15kHz/VGA/SVGA)
Television with SCART connection
RGB monitors
Multiscan A Multiscan ( multiple horizontal scan rate or
"multi-sync" ) RGB monitor provides the greatest flexibility
A multiscan monitor is required if you wish to use display modes
that have different horizontal scan rates
A 15 kHz analog RGB monitor can display only the Amiga`s
default display mode and other 15 kHz scan rate modes
A VGA or SVGA type monitor can display the Amiga`s
de-interlaced and higher resolution modes, but not the standard
15 kHz video modes
SCART With the proper adaptor cable, a television with a
SCART input can be used as a 15 kHz RGB Monitor.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2011, 08:57:24 PM by scuzzb494 »
 

Offline SquirrelM@ster

Re: Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2011, 06:48:08 PM »
Quote from: ChaosLord;668195
All
 
Amiga 1084S, NEC Multisync 75
 
1084S requires NO adapter whatsoever and it supports all Amiga 500 modes.
NEC Multisync 75 requires a flickerfixer. It supports all Amiga FlickerFixer video modes.
I can play any NTSC or PAL game on either monitor.
 
plug & play 5 minutes

Wow! Thanks for the super clear info! I saw there's a flickerfixer/scan doubler on amigakit.com. But, it's 120 GBP...that's $190 US! Damn. Do you recommend any particular flickerfixer?
 

Offline SquirrelM@ster

Re: Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2011, 06:55:05 PM »
Quote from: marcfrick2112;668196
Hey there, Well I feel this is a great thread idea! Esp, if we could amass a single master list of all known Amiga-compatible monitors!
 
I have a 20" Toshiba TIMM MM20E45 TV/multisync monitor with built-in speakers, and even a subwoofer!
 
BRIEF DESCRIPTION     An Amiga compatible 20 inch (500mm) combination multisync monitor and television set. The horizontal scan rates for the RGB monitor are from 15kHz to 40kHz with vertical scan rates of 50-90Hz. 15kHz NTSC composite and SVHS video inputs along with built in stereo sound complete the feature set.
 
I managed to con my dad into buying it originally for my heavily-expanded
Amiga 500... It cost $500.00 , which was a great deal back then for a 20"
 
As for getting it to work... I just used a standard 15-pin VGA cable, and a standard
Commodore silver VGA adapter. Funny, when the monitor arrived, there was NO cable,
I called Toshiba, they said they don't ship cables anymore with them,
but happily FedEx'd me a VGA cable for free! Good Company.
 
One thing, tho, the TIMM needs a Sync Strainer adapter for Toaster use.
 
Gotta say, this monitor is the BOMB! True Multisync, handles any resoulution you can throw at it,
about the only monitor that I can safely risk using MonEd with...
I have moved my TIMM to whatever the most capable Amiga in the house is!
Sorry, the pic isn't that great.... but it IS just a big beige box, anyway..
I thought my feeble A1200T's Workbench might be a better pic!

I don't know anything about the TIMM, and I couldn't find any pics online. My work computer wouldn't let me view your pic.
 
Anyway, it sounds like a bit of a rare monitor. Is it? I'm glad you found such a great monitor!
 

Offline SquirrelM@ster

Re: Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2011, 07:11:20 PM »
Quote from: scuzzb494;668212
1: I have every Amiga model of computer... Many times.
2: Native I use a Microvitec... A4000s use a Picasso IV and Mitsubishi or IIyima
3: No adaptors ... I just plug the Amiga or Graphics card into the monitor
4: I just plugged it in, though the Picasso uses software.
 
Monitors:
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz43.htm
Microvitec: Mitsubishi: Iiyima:
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz328.htm
1084s Checkmate:
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/a_scuzz_may22/a_scuzz_jun06_02.jpg
A1200: Microvitec
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz55f.htm
A500: Philips
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz91.htm
 
PS You will not really get a stock Amiga to run on a PC monitor without a graphics card.
 
PPS Composite Jack: The Amiga was a video editing tool of the late 80s early 90s
Quote

Damn. You're a serious Amigan. I peeped the links. Very informative and inspiring. What you said about emulators was intriguing.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2011, 07:31:51 PM by SquirrelM@ster »
 

Offline ChaosLord

Re: Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2011, 07:23:58 PM »
Quote from: scuzzb494;668212
PS You will not really get a stock Amiga to run on a PC monitor without a graphics card.

Wrong!

I have been using PC monitors on my Amigas without any silly graphics card since 1990!

It is called a FlickerFixer.  It requires no drivers, no software and no problems and works with any normal PC monitor.  FlickerFixer = 1000% compatible.
Wanna try a wonderfull strategy game with lots of handdrawn anims,
Magic Spells and Monsters, Incredible playability and lastability,
English speech, etc. Total Chaos AGA
 

Offline SquirrelM@ster

Re: Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2011, 07:27:39 PM »
Quote from: mrmoonlight;668204
Hi i have a Amiga 1200 and i use a scart lead bought from Amigakit ,and it is connected to a 19inch hd ready dolby digital bush tv and its a brilliant picture ,best wishes Brian.:laughing:

Which SCART did you buy? There are a few...
 
Quote from: Lord Aga;668199
Sharp LC42DH77E works fine with VGA and SCART. It syncs down to 15KHz.
You didn't have to use a flickerfixer?  Which SCART/VGA kit did you use? Where did you get it? Amigamaniac has an adapter as well...
 
 
Thanks, guys! You mind posting the specs/resolution of those TVs? I'm in the US...
 
Also, I found another VGA kit here: http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=220215113&sellerid=18700237 Well, for those in the US, this might be easier.
 

Offline SquirrelM@ster

Re: Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2011, 07:33:10 PM »
Quote from: ChaosLord;668347
Wrong!
 
I have been using PC monitors on my Amigas without any silly graphics card since 1990!
 
It is called a FlickerFixer. It requires no drivers, no software and no problems and works with any normal PC monitor. FlickerFixer = 1000% compatible.

Do you recommend any flickerfixers? What do you recommend for an Amiga 500?
 
Would this flickerfixer work for every Amiga model?
 
Amigakit.com has a flickerfixer, but it's internal. I'd rather not open up my computer if an external flickerfixer is available...
 

Offline Thorham

Re: Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2011, 07:41:11 PM »
Quote from: scuzzb494;668212
PS You will not really get a stock Amiga to run on a PC monitor without a graphics card.
Yes you can. I use a combination of a Commodore VGA adapter (my VGA CRT syncs down to 49 hrtz/29 khz) and a video box (which I've had already). The VGA adapter is great for productivity and the video box, while not very good with composite, is still good for games and demos.

People who aren't interested in 15 khz stuff only need a VGA adapter (ECS and AGA).
 

Offline Lord Aga

Re: Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2011, 07:57:39 PM »
Quote from: SquirrelM@ster;668349

You didn't have to use a flickerfixer?  Which SCART/VGA kit did you use? Where did you get it? Amigamaniac has an adapter as well...
 
Thanks, guys! You mind posting the specs/resolution of those TVs? I'm in the US...


No flickerfixer. Sharp LC42DH77E syncs down to Amiga frequencies. And it's just like plugging in a generic PC to a PC monitor. Ordinary VGA cable. Took one from my PC monitor actually. Of course you need RGB to VGA dongle for the Amiga end.
It is a 42 inch, full HD 1080p TV. Supports 50, 60 and 100 Hz.
But being a SCART equipped TV, I don't know if this model is on sale in the US.
Glory to the loud-mouthed Scotsman !