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Dual eSATA board.
« on: November 05, 2011, 01:01:19 AM »
I wanted to have an additional eSATA port so I could connect my DVD as well as my external HD, so I swapped out the IDE->SATA converter I was using and I replaced it with a board with dual ports.

When originally trying out IDE->SATA boards I found that none I tried worked and ended up getting one from Amigakit that worked. Just ordering this new converter was a bit of a gamble, but it paid off.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812240019

This board (Koutech IO-ASA221) was a little on the pricey side, but my logic for picking it was that the specs say it supports PIO 0-4 and the other did not mention which modes it  supported. The $14 Vantec CB-SP200 may work just as well.

Under the SATA board I actually have a tiny 4GB disk-on-module, so right now I'm using 3 out of 4 of my possible IDE devices.
 

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Re: Dual eSATA board.
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2011, 10:49:39 AM »
Nice - but be aware that eSATA != SATA.

For the extra cable length eSATA offers, you need to provide eSATA signalling as well. In other words: if you stick an eSATA connector on an originally internal SATA port you better make sure your cabling doesn't exceed the SATA internal standards (1m instead of 2m for eSATA). Otherwise you need an active (powered) adapter to boost the signal. You might get away with slightly longer cables on the lower data rates but mileages vary.
 

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Re: Dual eSATA board.
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2011, 10:56:41 PM »
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Nice - but be aware that eSATA != SATA.

For the extra cable length eSATA offers, you need to provide eSATA signalling as well. In other words: if you stick an eSATA connector on an originally internal SATA port you better make sure your cabling doesn't exceed the SATA internal standards (1m instead of 2m for eSATA). Otherwise you need an active (powered) adapter to boost the signal. You might get away with slightly longer cables on the lower data rates but mileages vary.


Zac67, thanks for the info!

The bad news is with all the adapters I may be exceeding 1m. The good news that I'm not having any reliability issues in PIO mode 4. I definitely don't want to go any longer...

I have been converting some files to mpeg1 (on my PC) which I am transferring via a fat32 formatted compact flash adapter on one SATA port to a SSD HD on another SATA port,  so I have been moving a lot of data! Not a single problem. So far I have moved about 8GB. This is so much faster than Wifi, or subway USB :)

An eSATA SD-card reader would be really nice. I wonder it that exists...

Watch Deathbead Vigil on the real-deal, anyone?

_nate
 

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Re: Dual eSATA board.
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2011, 11:20:55 PM »
 

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Re: Dual eSATA board.
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2011, 11:21:15 PM »
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Zac67, thanks for the info!

The bad news is with all the adapters I may be exceeding 1m. The good news that I'm not having any reliability issues in PIO mode 4. I definitely don't want to go any longer...

I have been converting some files to mpeg1 (on my PC) which I am transferring via a fat32 formatted compact flash adapter on one SATA port to a SSD HD on another SATA port,  so I have been moving a lot of data! Not a single problem. So far I have moved about 8GB. This is so much faster than Wifi, or subway USB :)

An eSATA SD-card reader would be really nice. I wonder it that exists...

Watch Deathbead Vigil on the real-deal, anyone?

_nate


they do make one.

http://www.addonics.com/products/AEPDDESU.php

wow expensive though!
 

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Re: Dual eSATA board.
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2011, 11:24:00 PM »
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Hi,

Perhaps this may be what your looking for.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=22397&zenid=688173ec7b0a684937f2de0fb2a51f43


Chris



Thanks.

I seen a few of those. I think the eSATA port is for hooking external drives, but i'm not quite sure....
 

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Re: Dual eSATA board.
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2011, 11:39:50 PM »
yes, and they are supposedly hot swappable.

edit: I see your looking at the other end of the chain.

Chris
« Last Edit: November 06, 2011, 12:34:41 AM by QuikSanz »
 

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Re: Dual eSATA board.
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2011, 01:28:43 AM »
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yes, and they are supposedly hot swappable.

edit: I see your looking at the other end of the chain.

Chris


yeah, I could hook that device to my subway but then what I would end up with is a really slow eSATA port :)
 

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Re: Dual eSATA board.
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2011, 01:37:59 AM »
If you look at that device it takes a USB input for the card reader and a SATA input for the SATA-e, along with a power supply wire for the current needed for SaTA-e to be powered.

Chris
 

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Re: Dual eSATA board.
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2011, 12:23:31 AM »
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they do make one.

http://www.addonics.com/products/AEPDDESU.php

wow expensive though!


I got the addonics thing. Wow that was fast shipping!

Anyway, this is really super strange. Total mixed bag.

On my 1200 (on the SATA) I can read and write SD and Sony cards, however if I try use a compact flash card the machine just hangs. Mouse and windows still move but the nothing redraws, so it is hung.

I tried updating the firmware on the device and even setting PIO 0 on the FastATA.

I did have one of those SmartMedia cards but I can't find it. I think it was a whopping 64MB!

The worst part is I think I think I corrupted one of my CF cards with my 3.9 install I had been working on. Bummer!

I'll do some more testing with it. Perhaps the device itself has a defective CF port...

Still, for reading/writing SD cards, its way better than my subway USB.


thought it would be funny to email Addonics technical support :)

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I am using the AEPDDESU with a Commodore Amiga 1200 over eSATA. Anyway it works flawlessly with SD and Sony but with Compact Flash it hangs the computer. I tried 2 different cards with the same result. I upgraded the firmware to the latest available on your site.

I know this product does not claim to be compatible with the Commodore Amiga 1200, but is there any reason the Compact Flash would work differently than the other types of media?

Perhaps I have a defective unit?
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Re: Dual eSATA board.
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2011, 07:33:40 AM »
CF ist probably just a rather passive pass-through - I may be the CF card that's not cooperative but it may as well be the pass-through (as with other CF reader/cards).
 

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Re: Dual eSATA board.
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2011, 01:29:00 PM »
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CF ist probably just a rather passive pass-through - I may be the CF card that's not cooperative but it may as well be the pass-through (as with other CF reader/cards).


That is the same thing I was thinking (with the pass-through). The odd thing is that both CF cards work great with another CF-> 2.5" SATA converter, and I know the Sandisk one anyway has been used as my primary storage both on the 1200's internal IDE and the FastATA at one point. That being the case I  would have expected to CF to work for sure...

I moved about 4GB of stuff to both CF and Sony media each and it works great for that. It goes very fast as well, like 4.8MB/sec which is much better than subway.

I really need to test the CF over the eSATA with my Windows 7 notebook and see what happens. Also I can test the CF with the Amiga over the USB. I really only have 2 4GB CF cards anyway, so the others formats are more useful.

Who knows, that lost 64MB Smartmedia card could turn up any day now...