Hyperion back in court with Amiga Inc.?

[fishy_fiz]

Mikey_C doesn't know his arse from his elbow.

I find that hard to believe. Surely a person would know where thier head has been for the last few years?  

Sorry, I didnt really mean it, was just too good a setup to pass-up  

[eliyahu]

@thread

update here.

-- eliyahu

[jorkany]

@thread

update here.

-- eliyahu

Oh I see, he believed Ben Hermans.

[eliyahu]

Oh I see, he believed Ben Hermans.

we don't know the source of his hearing about the seeking of 'legal advice,' so it's a bit unfair to assume ben had said anything one way or another. this is why we have hearsay rules in civil law.

-- eliyahu

[Piru]

Oh I see, he believed Ben Hermans.

Hermans, gotta love the him. If you ever meet the guy watch out or you might get sued!

[Duce]

More dick waving about BS that no one cares about.  The few of us still here doing CPR on the corpse of the Amiga want some product, innovation, and options - and no one really cares if it's red, blue, green pink or brown.

The people sucking off the lawsuit teet for the last nearly 20 years have been doing more harm than good - support them in no way.  Their shouts and screams about legal entitlements will not get us old Amiga farts left here a damned thing.  I'd never seen that Hermans' email and wish I hadn't, but it is not surprising.

Support the grassroots guys with tin on their irons as best you can, like Mike (FPGA), and the Natami crew, AROS, etc.

[fishy_fiz]

What an absolute schmuck (Ben Hermans via that email linked to).

Of course Ive always thought as much, some time ago he attacked me in a thread at amigaworld for asking what the plan after amigaos4 was done was. This was well before os4 pre beta, so it wasnt like all the typical things had been talked to death yet either at the time, I was a genuinely interested customer. Also, if I recall correctly (was many years ago) I had a few suggestions/ideas. I cant recall what really, and Im sure they werent any sort of game changers, but Id like to think they werent as stupid or strange as the usual ideas that pop up at amigaworld.

Being that Hyperion made games it seemed a pretty reasonable question, but he seemed to think the question had some sort of hidden meaning.
I was quite surpsied and somewhat shocked by his response. Id been AmigaOS only up to this point too (that has changed now, and to be honest Ben Hermans himself is partly responsible for this).

Im normally pretty much a pacifist and dont hold many grudges, but the way he spoke to me, a complete stranger, who was simply interested in where his hobby was going has put him on my list of people Id love to smack in the mouth.

[Methuselas]

Holy Sh!t! Do those guys really have *NOTHING* else to do???

[spirantho]

I don't know (or pretend to know) exactly what was going on in those days, but I do remember this:

In 2004, when that e-mail was written, both Hyperion and Genesi were doing everything they could to stop each other. It's not like good vs. evil - this is business vs. business - and I'm afraid that sort of thing's fairly standard fare....

If someone's preparing to sue you, you do everything you can to stop them, simple as that.

[nicholas]

I don't know (or pretend to know) exactly what was going on in those days, but I do remember this:

In 2004, when that e-mail was written, both Hyperion and Genesi were doing everything they could to stop each other. It's not like good vs. evil - this is business vs. business - and I'm afraid that sort of thing's fairly standard fare....

If someone's preparing to sue you, you do everything you can to stop them, simple as that.

Herman is a tw@, simple as that.

[eliyahu]

Herman is a tw@, simple as that.

this from a guy whose signature includes a quote from hassan nasrallah. not sure if that speaks well of your ability to judge a person's character.

-- eliyahu

[Jpan1]

Seems like modern bureaucracy is slowing the creative process down yet again...Amiga does not belong to Amiga Inc for money or any other reason, they did not see the role of Amiga as important to the users, they just took it's name and jumped on the bandwagon of, hey, let make Amiga, a profitable scheme by using its name as a creative and intellectual property without investing in technological research...con artists who think they can make a deal or two from using other platforms by using the Amiga name.. Well, at least Hyperion have more credibility in programming to make Amiga more interesting than some souped up second rate machine with an Amiga logo on it. Apple is only Apple because it has it's own operating system that suits it's users but Amiga inclined has nothing of the sort because they failed to reach the target Market, and that is, creative a machine that users want to use, because it's original and different. This is my Gripe about technology and computing, that it's run by people who don't actually know that much about computing...leave it to the experts and let the guys who want technology to be something more than a corporate machine, get on with it!

[Digiman]

Hyperion didn't have the intelligence to port OS4 to Xenon PPC whilst getting IBM to design a suitable motherboard.

So they're not worthy of owning the name Amiga, nor is Amiga Inc, Morph OS team, Clowntoo, x1000 x500 or SAM460 hardware producers.

In fact nobody deserves the name today because nobody exists to make a computer akin to Amiga 1000 in 1985 (fasrer than most powerful PC/Mac at halfthe price with a stunningly elegant and powerful OS)

[eliyahu]

Hyperion didn't have the intelligence to port OS4 to Xenon PPC whilst getting IBM to design a suitable motherboard.

So they're not worthy of owning the name Amiga, nor is Amiga Inc, Morph OS team, Clowntoo, x1000 x500 or SAM460 hardware producers.

In fact nobody deserves the name today because nobody exists to make a computer akin to Amiga 1000 in 1985 (fasrer than most powerful PC/Mac at halfthe price with a stunningly elegant and powerful OS)

are you kidding me? do you have any idea how much it would have cost to engage IBM ETS on a design project like that? not to mention that waternoose isn't available for sale to external customers!

please. if you want to bash hyperion, try another tack. 'cause this one is absurd.

-- eliyahu

[klx300r]

@ jorkany

since you have such a keen interest in the ongoings over at amigans.net then I'm sure you know the outcome of that thread you so kindly quoted:rolleyes:

I suggest you take this **** to your favourite site...oops sorry second favourite site after amigans.net that is

[itix]

Amiga does not belong to Amiga Inc for money or any other reason,

Why not? I dont like Amiga Inc. but they paid many million dollars to acquire Amiga as Ben Hermans has stated. Anything else is just stealing.