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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #209 from previous page: July 15, 2011, 02:33:15 PM »
Now dammy, we both know it isn't the success of CUSA that is getting so many people up at arms. I would say what it is but Darrin already said it so well that I don't want to waste the space by repeating it.

I still stand by what I've said.  If you really want to spend money on it and you think it is worth it to you, go for it!  But it isn't for me.  I guess there are others who feel that way and are a bit more agitated about the flood of messages for every little new thing they do.

I'm just glad they stopped short of telling us when the go poo. :D
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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #210 on: July 15, 2011, 02:59:10 PM »
Quote from: dammy;649687
True, C=USA is just struggling to get all products shipped to existing pre-orders.



There is still no logical answer (to me) about why only the most expensive model (ultimate) is being shipped.
If this was about just catching up, then the earliest orders placed would have been filled, imo. In fact, you indicated that would be the process (FIFO). Clearly, from reading the posts on Commodore-Amiga.org, this is not the case.

source

Typical concern "I'm going to be getting one of the middle price units with the wifi but really want to see when others receive their non ultimate units before ordering."

To the casual observer, putting 2+2 together this looks like either a continued supply shortage (already posted by Barry) or a manpower shortage. If you enjoy the success I believe is possible particularly from the Mike Commodore connection (regardless of how deep the connection runs), then you can see how this will put a greater strain on what is obviously already a strained operation currently.

Feel free to correct me if you think my surface analysis is incorrect.

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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #211 on: July 15, 2011, 03:04:31 PM »
Number6, your  knowledge, wisdom and ability to craw logical conclutions has been noted.  You have been wieghed and found worthy of promotion.  You are no longer number6...
 
 
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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #212 on: July 15, 2011, 03:37:14 PM »
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There is still no logical answer (to me) about why only the most expensive model (ultimate) is being shipped.
If this was about just catching up, then the earliest orders placed would have been filled, imo. In fact, you indicated that would be the process (FIFO). Clearly, from reading the posts on Commodore-Amiga.org, this is not the case.

source


"I talked with Barry. He said this was a combo of factors: order-date, model and actually even zipcode! He said he expects to "catch up" in about 2 weeks. "

Not with the two weeks again...!
Ok, Is this proof enough that CUSA is Amiga related?
 

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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #213 on: July 15, 2011, 03:42:33 PM »
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"I talked with Barry. He said this was a combo of factors: order-date, model and actually even zipcode! He said he expects to "catch up" in about 2 weeks. "

Not with the two weeks again...!
Ok, Is this proof enough that CUSA is Amiga related?



Letting a user try to explain the delays as related in either a phone call or written word from the company, as opposed to the company actually making a statement directly to their supporters...also not a route I would have taken.
*shrug*

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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #214 on: July 15, 2011, 03:56:21 PM »
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True, C=USA is just struggling to get all products shipped to existing pre-orders.  I think that is what truly annoys the anti-C=USA trolls, success.


How can you be struggling to fill a handfull of orders when you claim to have 100,000+ units boxed and read to ship since 3 months ago?  This gets really confusing.  Have you decided whether to include that mouse yet or does that depend on whether or not Walmart have run out?
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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #215 on: July 15, 2011, 04:05:09 PM »
Quote from: number6;649692
There is still no logical answer (to me) about why only the most expensive model (ultimate) is being shipped.
If this was about just catching up, then the earliest orders placed would have been filled, imo. In fact, you indicated that would be the process (FIFO). Clearly, from reading the posts on Commodore-Amiga.org, this is not the case.

source

Typical concern "I'm going to be getting one of the middle price units with the wifi but really want to see when others receive their non ultimate units before ordering."

To the casual observer, putting 2+2 together this looks like either a continued supply shortage (already posted by Barry) or a manpower shortage. If you enjoy the success I believe is possible particularly from the Mike Commodore connection (regardless of how deep the connection runs), then you can see how this will put a greater strain on what is obviously already a strained operation currently.

Feel free to correct me if you think my surface analysis is incorrect.

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I'm amazed that "ZIP code" is a factor.  Once an order has been boxed up and taken to UPS/FEDEX/USPO then who cares what the ZIP code is?  Hell, you just hand it over and let the postal company deal with that, especially when the customer has paid for the shipping when they ordered the product.

The fact is that an "Ultimate" manchine whill have the biggest mark-up, so it appears that C-USA are doing the rather unethical thing of shipping orders to customers based not on order date, but on which order lines makes them the most money, which is a rather strange priority for a company claiming to have a $30,000,000 advertising budget (which apart from the DVD insert appears to have not been spent).

It is all very, very strange, but then I don't have a degree in thermodynamics.
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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #216 on: July 15, 2011, 04:23:03 PM »
Quote from: Darrin;649698
How can you be struggling to fill a handfull of orders when you claim to have 100,000+ units boxed and read to ship since 3 months ago?  This gets really confusing.  Have you decided whether to include that mouse yet or does that depend on whether or not Walmart have run out?


Wow, can you distort things even more then that?  Or should I dare to ask if you are capable of being even more of a troll then you are now?
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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #217 on: July 15, 2011, 04:24:45 PM »
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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #218 on: July 15, 2011, 04:30:30 PM »
Quote from: dammy;649702
Wow, can you distort things even more then that?  Or should I dare to ask if you are capable of being even more of a troll then you are now?


It is amazing Spammy how you have never once managed to honestly address a single concern raised over several months.  Easier to call people "trolls" and "zealots" eh?

Got any more factory pics for us?

Here's one for you:

"C64x computers boxed and being shipped to waiting customers in Alaska and Hawaii":
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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #219 on: July 15, 2011, 04:42:49 PM »
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I think that is what truly annoys the anti-C=USA trolls, success.


The sad part is that you actually believe that.......
 

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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #220 on: July 15, 2011, 04:46:52 PM »
Hell Dammny, while we're at it, explain this:

If the factory photographs of the motherboards was an "honest mistake" by your secret agent in China then where are the real photographs?  Your agent has had over a month to get someone to take out a camera and take some "real" pics, email them to Bazza, who could email them to you and then you could post them.  So, where are they?  No cameras in China?  Or more likely, no motherboards.

Let's assume your excuse will be that they have all been shipped to the USA and are in cases ready to ship.  Can we have some pics of those please?  When I say pics, I mean pics of tens of thousands of machines all together and not a close-up of a metal stand with a few empty boxes on shelves.

As you have been shipping these orders then surely we have pictures of someone with C-USA dropping off hundreds of units at FEDEX/UPS/USPS from the back of a van or loading them toto their trucks from the back of your "assembly plant" in Florida?  Or are you just transporting them one at a time using the trunk of a car?

Honest questions.  Honest answers please.
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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #221 on: July 15, 2011, 04:49:17 PM »
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The sad part is that you actually believe that.......


The sad thing is that I think The Daddy shipped more Minimig v1.1 cases than C-USA has shipped 64x's so far.
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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #222 on: July 15, 2011, 04:57:20 PM »
Oh, and one last question before I head off to work:

Spammy, where are the reviews and pictures of your personal working 64x?  Surely you have ordered one?  Surely someone who has done so much for C-USA (Spammy threads, posting false pictures, making false statements) would have been one of the priority shipments?

I'd like to read a review from a trustworthy source, so I'm waiting with baited breath for a long, details report from an honest and reliable gentleman, respected and in good standing within the community such as yourself.  Any chance?
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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #223 on: July 15, 2011, 05:03:21 PM »
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Regardless of Barry being the jerk he seems to be, I think CUSA has delivered what they have promised, unlike most commodore/amiga-related companies have done in the past decades.
People keep saying this like it's some magical accomplishment. If a hobo spent a year screaming at me on the streetcorner about how he was going to sell his terrible chalk drawings for $1000 and then a year later turned out to actually be selling his terrible chalk drawings for $1000, that wouldn't change the fact that they're terrible, or that he spent a year screaming at me about it.
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And I don't think the case is so expensive, considering it is a nice quality custom case/keyboard, produced in low volumes, to be sold for old nerds/collectors like you and me. And I think you all know about economies of scale, since you often use this argument to justify things like a Sam board, which is hardware that can be compared to what the PC manufacturers and apple produced some 10 years ago, being sold today for about U$800 (and that includes only a bare board!).
First off, criminy! How many times do I need to say it? I'm not a defender, fan, or user of the X1000, the SAM, or other overpriced/underpowered PPC boards. Even if I were a fan of them, I wouldn't be so dense as to claim that the price tag is actually reasonable because it's only meant for a small market. Expensive is expensive, and even if you're okay with something being expensive, it doesn't change that fact.
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Btw, what I liked the most was the keyboard. Have you seen that it includes a custom keyboard made of Cherry MX keys? Do you know these are high quality mechanical keys manufactured in Germany, instead of the el-cheapo silicone dome keys used in every keyboard that comes with PCs? Do you know that a PC keyboard with these keys cost U$150, for the keyboard alone??
Yes, people have blathered on about that quite a bit. To which I reply: the widely-acknowledged nicest keyboard ever made, the Model M, can be had new for $80, and I seriously doubt Cherry MX is even $70 nicer, let alone $170.
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Spammy, where are the reviews and pictures of your  personal working 64x?  Surely you have ordered one?  Surely someone who  has done so much for C-USA (Spammy threads, posting false pictures,  making false statements) would have been one of the priority  shipments?
No, no, don't you remember? dammy has repeatedly emphasized that he's  not at all interested in the C64x, which explains why all he ever  posts are shoddy defenses of Barry's behavior and CUSA promo blurbs!
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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #224 on: July 15, 2011, 05:21:47 PM »
By the way, here's a fun quote I found in an earlier thread:
Quote from: digitex;637006
I said we will be shipping from inventory with no  wait by mid summer. We will start shipping the preorders, in the order  they were received, by the end of this month.
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