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Offline drHirudo

Re: E-petion Save Natami from wiki deletion
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2011, 11:02:49 AM »
Quote from: commodorejohn;644358
The notability policy is a complete joke, anyway. Separate pages for every episode of The Simpsons are notable, but not a single series page for Arfenhouse, the X1000 is notable because it has coverage from "reliable sources" (i.e. online tech journals whose main function is to parrot press releases) but Natami doesn't, blah blah, the list goes on...

The X1000 was shown working at several public shows (UK/Germany/USA). May be if we show sources of such event presentations of the Natami, they will consider to keep the article?

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Re: E-petion Save Natami from wiki deletion
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2011, 12:10:22 PM »
I see the videos the Natami folks have provided of the machine functioning to be as valid of evidence as the demos of the X1000.  :angry:

Thing that puzzles me about people being so uptight about wiki entries is what harm is the Natami entry doing?  Sounds more like someone with opposing views on the project is pissy and has a personal axe to grind, and I find that sad in a small market like what we have here.

The joys of community contributed knowledge bases, I suppose...
 

Offline koaftder

Re: E-petion Save Natami from wiki deletion
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2011, 12:21:29 PM »
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The X1000 was shown working at several public shows (UK/Germany/USA). May be if we show sources of such event presentations of the Natami, they will consider to keep the article?


All that has to be done is review the concerns raised in the AfD link in the article and rectify those areas and then the article would be in line with the notability policy. It wouldn't take much, there's probably already enough material out there to make it compliant. Once natami is in users hands this will all be moot anyway.
 

Offline koaftder

Re: E-petion Save Natami from wiki deletion
« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2011, 12:23:58 PM »
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Delete: Not notable, it's one of millions of electronics projects that hasn't even been completed. Wikipedia is not a place for Amiga (or any other kind of) evangelism. Koft (talk) 21:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC)


Yup, that's my vote, and it's because the article doesn't meet the notability requirements. It certainly will when it's finished and everyone is talking about it.
 

Offline persia

Re: E-petion Save Natami from wiki deletion
« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2011, 02:22:30 PM »
Probably valid claim about the A-Eon X1000.  It probably should be deleted as well, 250 units, if indeed any ever get made, is clearly in the hobby range.  Heck, when I owned a computer store I put together (or had staff put together) several thousand computers under my brand.  Maybe I need a wiki entry too!

Up until a few years ago the Uni I work for used to by computers from a local shop with their own brand, perhaps they deserve a wiki entry too.

Really if selling or promising to be selling 250 computers under your own brand is a valid criterion for inclusion in Wikipedia, then every corner computer shop that ever existed in Australia should be in Wikipedia!
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Offline digiflip

Re: E-petion Save Natami from wiki deletion
« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2011, 02:27:56 PM »
http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?b=6¬e=39895

you can't win with these Natami people, I be nice and try see if people care about the wikipedia  page and still they insult me?


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Re: E-petion Save Natami from wiki deletion
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2011, 03:04:24 PM »
Why are they shit talking you when you are trying to mount a campaign to have their project remain in Wikipedia, lol?  I give up with some of these people, it's like herding goddamned cats.

Them hosting their own wiki is sorta weak and undermines the work and effort they have put into the project.  If the project is active, it deserves to be on wikipedia - Natami will be a very important product to the Amiga community if it sees the light of day.
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Offline Templario

Re: E-petion Save Natami from wiki deletion
« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2011, 03:05:40 PM »
And NatAmi will has its own host? and easy solution.
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Offline yogisumo

Re: E-petion Save Natami from wiki deletion
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2011, 12:07:35 AM »
Branded computers would be made from off the shelf parts and would be in the category of IBM pc compatible which anybody could build.

Something like NatAmi is pretty unique although limited in numbers.  There is a difference.

Not that I'm going to lose sleep over a Wikipedia page....

Hope NatAmi lives though.  I'd probably buy one..
 

Offline Daedalus

Re: E-petion Save Natami from wiki deletion
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2011, 01:10:21 AM »
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Yet articles about every random fictional TV show starring fictional characters performing fictional deeds in fictional locations, are not allowed to be deleted because they are "notable for being mentioned in the mainstream media".

Any "encyclopedia" that deletes factual information but keeps fictional information is a joke.


The information on TV shows isn't fictional - the TV show actually exists, and has been seen by millions of people the world over. Read any Wikipedia article on the Simpsons for example, and it will tell you what happened in the episode. That is a fictional storyline with fictional characters, but it's a fact that the episode existed and had that storyline. Your post doesn't make any sense in that regard.

To be honest I'm not so sure Natami should have a page on Wikipedia. As others have pointed out, there are many, many small-scale electronics projects under development in the world, the vast majority of which won't have any impact whatsoever outside a small circle of people who are involved in the project itself, and will never be talked about in mainstream news. The X1000 is, for want of a better phrase, "more serious" than Natami, since it's been demonstrated at several computer shows, and has been talked about in mainstream media. There are a couple of businesses involved, press releases and so on, which add weight to its image as more than a hobby electronics project.
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Offline ChaosLord

Re: E-petion Save Natami from wiki deletion
« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2011, 02:02:00 AM »
"The Simpsons" is a faery tale.

Faery tales do not belong in encyclopedias.

Encyclopedia is for reality.

Wickedpedia actively deletes known useful scientific knowledge from itself every day.

Yet it has 100,000+ articles on fantasy nonsense faerytales and it actively pursues and invites more and more and more faery tale articles.
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Offline digiflip

Re: E-petion Save Natami from wiki deletion
« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2011, 05:50:50 PM »
lol wikipedia now says http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natami

This article has been tagged for rescue.


if most articles are fairy tales maybe it should be called the index to fairy tales

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