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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #359 from previous page: May 19, 2011, 09:40:33 PM »
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Wow finally someone who knows where I can legally purchase Workbench 3.1 disks, this is good news, please share this with the rest of the community for future reference... :)

PS: I know I can purchase 3.1 ROMS from AmigaKit but not the Workbench 3.1 disks... :(

I think AmigaKit have said that they are expecting some NOS 3.1 disks, is that right?

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #360 on: May 19, 2011, 09:42:06 PM »
@ Cloanto

You'll be pleased to know that I have removed and actually deleted myself all links and ADF files in relationship to Workbench.

You're probably asking why the sudden change of heart or was I forced to delete them, well no I wasn't forced to delete them, I chose to do so for the very simple reason that... Upon reflecting what I was trying to do here on behalf of myself and for the Amiga Community then I have decided (and sorry to all the decent guys out there who supported me on this to one degree or another) that there are too many -=Moderated=- in this so called Amiga Community that make such an endeavour a total waste of my time & money.

There are more decent folk who post on this site than the -=Moderated=- who also post here, but these -=Moderated=- who like nothing better than making anything anyone tries to do that may benefit the Amiga Community just not worth it.

Mostly they are the usual suspects who have never owned or used a real Amiga in years (if ever they ever did at all) and even worse are the ones who because they have written some crap piece of software that has nothing to do with the real Amiga hardware, somehow think they should automatically be respected and everyone should bow down before them and pat their over inflated egos and boost their idiotic feelings of self importance, then as I say It's just not worth me caring about any longer.

So feel free to continue with any legal action you may wish to take or have started to take already against me, I'll deal with that when it comes.

As of now I've removed everything you wanted and if there are any more you think I should know about then feel free to contact me and I will remove those too.

As for me I'm out of this whole farce of a subject as I really couldn't give a -=Moderated=- anymore about it or the so called Amiga Community... :)

Yours Sincerely

Frank Spiers
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 02:05:24 AM by Argo »
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #361 on: May 19, 2011, 09:51:17 PM »
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As I say both of them are very badly written pieces of legislation but at least with EUCD you get the opportunity to defend yourself first... :)

EUCD doesn't come into it, it doesn't offer any safe haven.
 
This part of the DMCA is like a plee bargain, it's a get out of jail free card for the site. It's in their interest to blindly take it, if they fight it then the consequences for them are significantly higher than just deleting your files (where the consequences are nothing).
 
Basically whether they ask you or not is irrelevant. You can't really contest it either, you knowingly infringed on copyright. All you are whinging about is how unfair it is that you can't get away with breaking the law. I won't lose any sleep over that.
 

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« Reply #362 on: May 19, 2011, 10:02:45 PM »
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Neither of the two things it criminilizes is copyright infringement.
You're arguing semantics..
It's a law involving the right to copy certain copyrighted material..

You know how silly it sounds to say its not a Copyright law, given it's definition as a law involving copyrighted material (albeit a subset that are encrypted)?

Must just be me..  :roflmao:

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #363 on: May 19, 2011, 10:12:45 PM »
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I really couldn't give a -=Moderated=- anymore about it or the so called Amiga Community

Does this also mean that you will be leaving this site? I can't claim I'd miss you if you did.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #364 on: May 19, 2011, 10:20:33 PM »
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Does this also mean that you will be leaving this site? I can't claim I'd miss you if you did.

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« Reply #365 on: May 19, 2011, 10:21:19 PM »
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You're arguing semantics..
It's a law involving the right to copy certain copyrighted material..

It's not semantics. Copyright law allows the copyright holder to control when copying takes place.
 
DMCA covers removing DRM, even if you haven't infringed on anyones copyright. Your copying might be fair use, but you still can't bypass the DRM.
 
DMCA doesn't give or take away any copyright rights. The safe haven doesn't give anyone a right to copy either, it just says that if they take down copyright infringing files then they won't be prosecuted. This is completely different from them having any rights.
 

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« Reply #366 on: May 19, 2011, 10:24:57 PM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 05:39:43 AM by Franko »
 

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« Reply #367 on: May 19, 2011, 10:28:46 PM »
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It's not semantics.
I disagree..

According to the government, it is:

http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf

But you know best...  :)

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« Reply #368 on: May 19, 2011, 10:39:56 PM »
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I disagree..
 
According to the government, it is:
 
www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf
 
But you know best... :)

Thanks for acknowledging that, it's the first intelligent thing you've said.
 
The copyright office is involved in it, circumvention of access control to copyright works is covered by it. However the only part that is involved with copyright infringement is the safe haven, which limits liability and doesn't give any rights to copying.
 
So it doesn't give or take away any right to copy, therefore it is not a copyright law.
 
If you don't get it after I've repeatedly explained it, then there is no hope.
Maybe you could try reading the pdf, but it says the same things with more words.
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #369 on: May 19, 2011, 10:40:59 PM »
@ Piru - Clonato
Frank may want to stop hosting the Amiga OS ADF's.....but I may start.....in fact I think everyone who agrees with this and wants to keep the memory of the Amiga alive should join in.....which should be EVERYONE on this site seems it is an AMIGA forum!

If not.....go and buy yourself a Windows PC and be happy.......

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« Reply #370 on: May 19, 2011, 10:50:22 PM »
Actually, most of us don't need to host images of the Amiga OS disks. I made copies of them when I got my first Amiga with a hard drive pre 1990 because I didn't trust floppies. Then DMS images, then ADF images.  

So don't know how hosting copies of disks keeps the memory of Amiga alive. I bring Amigas to Gaming conventions in the area and let people play games on them in order to do that.
 

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« Reply #371 on: May 19, 2011, 10:52:49 PM »
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So it doesn't give or take away any right to copy, therefore it is not a copyright law.
That's where I think you are wrong..
You are assuming that a "Copyright Law" is ONLY the part of the law that involves copying..

I believe it is any law handled by the Copyright Office that involves Copyrights, not just the actual copying..

Which is why I said it's semantics..
 
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If you don't get it after I've repeatedly explained it, then there is no hope. Maybe you could try reading the pdf, but it says the same things with more words.    

So, if someone disagrees with you, they can't read and have no hope..

Interesting...

I just think you're being silly, but probably fairly intelligent..

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« Reply #372 on: May 20, 2011, 12:17:01 AM »
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Does this also mean that you will be leaving this site? I can't claim I'd miss you if you did.


In an imperfect world healthy debate it good. How loathsome a place where everyone thinks exactly alike.

I'll agree some insults around here making me question the average maturity level though.

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #373 on: May 20, 2011, 12:20:50 AM »
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I'll agree some insults around here making me question the average maturity level though.
Yeah. Franko's hardly the only offender in that department, though.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #374 on: May 20, 2011, 12:22:43 AM »
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             i really couldn't give a shit anymore about it or the so called amiga community

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does this also mean that you will be leaving this site? I can't claim i'd miss you if you did.

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How are you helping the Amiga community? :)