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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #44 on: May 06, 2011, 01:31:06 AM »
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The easiest way it purchase 1.3 and 3.1 is exactly how Transition as alluded to:
Step 1 buy Amiga Forever,
Step 2 buy a Catweasel Mk4 or Mk4+.........
In my opinion if you are a classic amiga user the Catweasel (on a PC) is worth every penny.

You seem to have missed that you only are legally allowed to use the WB disks and ROMs included in Amiga Forever for emulation purposes and not on a real Amiga. I even doubt that you are allowed to use the ROM image files for running WHDLoad or softkicking on a real Amiga.

http://www.amigaforever.com/kb/13-145

Edit: a few minutes late, drat :)
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2011, 01:33:08 AM »
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The easiest way it purchase 1.3 and 3.1 is exactly how Transition as alluded to:
Step 1 buy Amiga Forever,
Step 2 buy a Catweasel Mk4 or Mk4+.........
In my opinion if you are a classic amiga user the Catweasel (on a PC) is worth every penny.
First off, it seems from what others are saying that the system images on Amiga Forever don't even work on a real Amiga - that's a deal-breaker right there, unless they're mistaken. Second, any solution for getting an Amiga up and running that involves buying a software package and then buying $70 worth of hardware just to get the software package onto physical media is sub-optimal - the Catweasel is a fine piece of hardware for what it is, but some of us have no need for such a thing and no desire to spend $70 on something we'd never use again.
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Would you really what or need any of these version of amiga OS:  1.0, 1.1, or 1.2 1.4, 2.0, 2.04, or 2.1?.  I can maybe see wanting a version 1.0 or 1.2 roms to boot some old games but probably not the OS
Maybe, maybe not, but if nobody's going to make them legitimately available then I don't see how people can complain when they're pirated...
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2011, 01:44:02 AM »
A lot of people fail to realize the reason that Cloanto has not posted in these threads since Franko started:
They have no legal option to present; just like Franko they got no license for distributing WB for use on real Amiga hardware, and they probably got no way of obtaining one. And if they posted here they would have to admit so, which would strengthen Frankos case.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2011, 01:55:41 AM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2011, 02:01:16 AM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 04:20:13 AM by Franko »
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #49 on: May 06, 2011, 02:17:37 AM »
Wow!

I didn't realize my comment cause such a stir.
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I know that amiga forever roms do not work, as they need a key file, but the two original  1.3 .adf disk and 6 original 3.1 .adf disks also?  I did't know that and to be honest it is a bit surprising.

I actually have never try putting the workbench  adf on disk, though I might try the one, the 3.1 workbench disk, just as test.   I am usually doing the opposite, putting my games disks on WinUAE.  Luckly for me, I still have original working copies of 1.3, 2.04, 2.1, 3.1, 3.5, and 3.9withbb2.  I should think about making a couple back ups of them all up now.

@Franko
It is cool that you are using so many versions of the OS still.

Though I like the idea of releasing the OS to the public domain or at least make them available for purchase, it may be a pipe dream.   Many formerly commercially available OSs out there are still not released, and in many cases unavailable.
like
MSDOS , windows 1.0-3.1, 95, 98, ME, NT, 2000,
MacOS after 7.5.5

I bet classic mac users would love 7.6.1, 8.1, 9.1, and 9.2 to be available.
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2011, 02:23:43 AM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2011, 02:24:03 AM »
I think that only 1.3.4 and 3.1 are the 2 and 6 disks respectively like the original disk based distros.
The others 1.00, 1.1, 1.2, 2.0, 2.04, 2.1, 3.0 are boot compilations for Amiga Forever.


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@ commodorejohn

Here's list of the ADF directory taken from my copy of Amiga Forever Premium Edition 2008 which cost me £59 from Vesalia...

Code: [Select]
af-boot.adf
amiga-os-100-workbench.adf
amiga-os-110-workbench.adf
amiga-os-120-workbench.adf
amiga-os-134-extras.adf
amiga-os-134-workbench.adf
amiga-os-200-workbench.adf
amiga-os-204-workbench.adf
amiga-os-210-workbench.adf
amiga-os-300-workbench.adf
amiga-os-310-extras.adf
amiga-os-310-fonts.adf
amiga-os-310-install.adf
amiga-os-310-locale.adf
amiga-os-310-storage.adf
amiga-os-310-workbench.adf
16 files - 7056 blocks used


as you can see it only has the Workbench 3.0 disk (no extras, install etc) but also they have been changed especially the StartUp-Sequence from what you would find on a real Workbench disk and include Cloanto copyright notices... :(

You can judge for yourself if this is value for money, if say for example you were just needing to replace one faulty floppy disk... :)
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2011, 02:26:11 AM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 04:22:06 AM by Franko »
 

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« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2011, 02:34:02 AM »
@Franko
I stand corrected
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2011, 03:41:20 AM »
I have asked many times before, all these nah sayers and arm chair lawyers, do any of you actually use CLASSIC AMIGA'S??? becuase if you did you would shut the hell up. I have ORGINAL 1.3, 2.04 and 3.0 and 3.1 WB Disks (Franko i will check if my 1.3 disks are alright, if so i will make them into adf's for you), BUT i know for sure the 3.0 and 3.1 disks have errors where am i suppose to get new one?
as for Amiga Forever that's not an option as
1. They don't work on real amiga's
2. Why would i spend money on something i can do for free, WINUAE is not that hard to set up using a real Hard drive as an amiga drive.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2011, 03:53:06 AM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2011, 03:57:50 AM »
No problem mate I actually have the adf's already But i would rather give you my originals just hope the disk are OK as i haven't tried them in ages. i will know tonight.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2011, 04:11:04 AM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #58 on: May 06, 2011, 04:55:04 AM »
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And it is still equally illegal!!!

Your argument doesn't get any more valid by adding more exclamation marks, you know.

Especially if it's bullshit - not doing what a software license wants you to do might be a lot of things, but it would certainly not be "illegal" in this particular case.
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #59 from previous page: May 06, 2011, 05:11:37 AM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 04:25:43 AM by Franko »