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Re: A1200 Pointer Corruption
« Reply #14 from previous page: April 19, 2011, 12:30:23 PM »
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No idea what type of CFcard/board he's using but it could very well be that it's interfering somehow with the data paths/bus for the sprite display, before consigning the Amiga to the bin it would be wise to remove it first and see if the problem still persists... :)

@Gertsy, yup... the only socketed chips in an A1200 are the ROMs... :)


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Re: A1200 Pointer Corruption
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2011, 12:38:32 PM »
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2 right.  How come ur profile ON light is never glowing Franko.  Is that a CP thing.?


I haven't paid the bill so me electricity's been cut off, I'll try sticking a wee birthday cake candle behind it and see if that helps... ;)
 

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Re: A1200 Pointer Corruption
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2011, 02:07:43 PM »
Easy fix, hot gun glue a heat sink on the Lisa chip. It is known issue and since it only occurs after the Amiga warms up, it is definitely heat related.
 
In the 1200 rack project, my lisa chip had a heat sink on it that was put there by a third party for this very reason!
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Re: A1200 Pointer Corruption
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2011, 04:09:37 PM »
@tasmanial_guy

Er, you might want to clarify the hot gun glue bit - using a normal hot glue gun isn't going to help your cooling *at all*, as the plastic glue is quite a good insulator. You need special heat conducting glue, or heatsinks with this special glue already applied. Normal glue, sticky pads and the likes are only going to make it worse...
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Re: A1200 Pointer Corruption
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2011, 05:04:13 PM »
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Re: A1200 Pointer Corruption
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2011, 08:43:36 PM »
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@tasmanial_guy

Er, you might want to clarify the hot gun glue bit - using a normal hot glue gun isn't going to help your cooling *at all*, as the plastic glue is quite a good insulator. You need special heat conducting glue, or heatsinks with this special glue already applied. Normal glue, sticky pads and the likes are only going to make it worse...
Also note that isn't really glue, it is a thermal grease. Which means that the OP needs figure out a way to fasten that heatsink as well.
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Re: A1200 Pointer Corruption
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2011, 09:59:19 PM »
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@tasmanial_guy
 
Er, you might want to clarify the hot gun glue bit - using a normal hot glue gun isn't going to help your cooling *at all*, as the plastic glue is quite a good insulator. You need special heat conducting glue, or heatsinks with this special glue already applied. Normal glue, sticky pads and the likes are only going to make it worse...

You're right of course, I didn't get much thought, but with my 1200 rack they did use a type of glue (it looks like a hot gun glue) around the side to fasten the heat sink to the chip.
 
Anyway it is worth a try to try and fasten a heat sink to see if it does make any difference as it does sound like an overheating issue.
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Re: A1200 Pointer Corruption
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2011, 10:36:39 PM »
Yep, it does seem like common sense when you deal with chips a lot, but I'm always wary of people who mightn't be so sure. I remember working in a computer parts shop (God, it's nearly 10 years ago now! and had a guy ring up and say the new Athlon CPU he'd bought had failed after a half an hour. We asked him to bring the machine into us, opened it up... And the CPU heatsink was stuck on with a nice, fat piece of sticky foam - the kind used for putting up signs, hooks etc! He said he did it because the cooler clips were too tight to get on properly! :o

Anyway, back on topic, thermal grease (I've always called it thermal compound myself) is the best for heatsinks, though it's not an adhesive. You can get small coolers with thermal adhesive on them, and thermal transfer adhesive itself, though it's rare and not as efficient as the compound. Still, it probably wouldn't take all that much cooling to get the chip working properly again if heat is an issue...
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Re: A1200 Pointer Corruption
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2011, 09:35:13 AM »
Just an update for the people who posted suggestions etc.

I have fitted three RAM heat sinks onto the Lisa chip and moved the CF adapter to another location in the case and everything seems to be back to normal. I had it runninlg for a couple of hours last night and couldn't replicate the corruption so I guess I can call that fixed now.

Thanks for help everyone!

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Re: A1200 Pointer Corruption
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2011, 10:13:29 AM »
ahh wicked, you better leave it on for a day just in case ;)