CommodoreUSA Partners with Disney

[Borut]

Hi,

@Everyone,

Well now we talk of Hyperion, so lets talk, I am sitting here with a PPC 603e, Blizzard board in my Amiga 1200, I have been looking for a legit copy of OS 4.0 for it, tried all three active Amiga stores (amigakit, software hut, & versilla if there are more please tell me), none of them have OS 4.0, wrote to Hyperion about buying no answer, WHERE THE FRAP IS SUPPORT FOR MY A1200. I don't want to buy a mini miga, sam flex 440 because once again where is the support?  I see no mags, no commercial software no software companies giving any support at all, just a bunch of amatuers playing around. I have 3 illegal copies of OS 4.0 that don't work from 3 seperate people. Once again where is the support?
smerf

Don´t know where is the big problem:
http://www.vesalia.de -> Change to english language and enter in the search field "OS 4.0" - the first product in the list shows OS 4.0 for classics

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=764

Not on stock but probably a chance to get some?
http://www.amiga-shop.net/product_info.php?products_id=275&language=en&osCsid=m07acp21ogo73o13v9n8ncptt4

At least here somebody should have it http://www.acube-systems.biz/index.php?page=resellers but knowing that OS 4.1 for classic will come out soon this could be the problem that the OS 4.0 classic is not available anymore.

[Kesa]

Great, now what the hell do I do with this painful swelling?  :mad:

Rub gently and fondle with care. Or maybe you could try this hammer :hammer:

[Amiga_Nut]

I think you should refrain from commenting on things you know less than nothing about. You cannot buy advertising on anything that Disney does. They don't sell advertising. They are the largest media company in the world. There is a huge difference between "advertising" & "partnering".

You mean Disney actually accepted to take their money in exchange for putting a piece of paper inside the casing? Wow yeah they must be REAL CLOSE :roflmao:

If I had money to waste I could have got flyers for Olivia Wild flavour lollipops to be put in there, if Disney had asked them and given them a 90% discount for the pleasure of being associated with them then I would be impressed. Anyone can advertise anything if they pay for it. Hell rubbish drivers can get behind the wheel of Formula 1 cars if they pay for the pleasure, this is no more significant.

[nicholas]

We have been very tolerant of opinions, but comments like this really are personal attacks.

Everyone, you can be as negative as you wish but PLEASE refrain from personal attacks.

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[danwood]

In case you missed it earlier Darrin, I'm not an employee nor am I an investor of C=USA.  In fact I can remember feeling the rage you have right now when they deluded the worthy Amiga name by some rebadged h0rked up PPC mobo with the name AmigaOne which sold initially running only Linux.   You had the same rage back then, right?

A PPC board that runs AmigaOS 4... if you really can't tell the difference between a PPC board running AmigaOS 4 and a generic x86 running Windows 7/Linux and think they're both Amigas, then there's really no hope here.  The difference should be blindly obvious to any one.

The OS is really the only defining factor in computers these days, Macs are not the same as PCs running Win 7 just because of the hardware similarities, what makes them a Mac?  Because they run the MacOS and run Mac apps, same with Amiga hardware, if it doesn't run AmigaOs or Amiga apps, it's not an Amiga.

[danwood]

amigadave

You are right.. Sooo many people have left the site because of this idiot fanboys.. they need to get a life.

Commodore uSA has DONE MORE THAN ANY AMIGA COMPANY SINCE 93 TO GET THE BRAND OUT THERE.

Personally I'd rather the Amiga brand was laid to rest than whored out on cheap knock-off tat like supermarket TVs and sub $100 buggy android tablets, what a sad and undignified end to one of the industries most pioneering technology brands of the 80s/90s.  Sticking the name Amiga on a kettle or crap TV is not doing "more for the Amiga", it's making what was once a legendary name into a laughing stock.

[danwood]

Thanks Red,
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The venom is a bit much considering how many people have already suggested that if the Amiga were still around it would probably be X86 based.
!

Maybe, but it wouldn't be running Windows 7 or Ubuntu with an emulator (at best), that's just a PC, same as we had in the Amiga era running Windows, the same, these CUSA "Amigas" are no more an Amiga than the Amstrad 286 running Win 3.1 my bro had when I had my A600.

[brenry]

it's making what was once a legendary name into a laughing stock.

yeah, um.. hey danwood if you're considering becoming a apple Switcher or upgrading to an Atari ST I would be willing to give ya a couple of bucks for that slow old amiga hardware

[danwood]

yeah, um.. hey danwood if you're considering becoming a apple Switcher or upgrading to an Atari ST I would be willing to give ya a couple of bucks for that slow old amiga hardware

I've been a Mac user since 2001, a Windows user since 1998, a Linux user since 2006 and an Amiga user since 1991 (OS 2.0-4.1.2).  I use OS 4 on an A1XE today and an A1200 upgraded for classic stuff, but it's not the same as my Mac or PCs, slapping a boing ball logo on my Win 7 box would not make it be an Amiga.

[danwood]

I may be too young to claim I was a first generation commodore user but having inherited them from an older brother I remember them fondly and still have a working amiga that I still use sometimes. This new commodore seems to have no such sense of nostalgia and interested only in making a quick dollar selling devices you can already buy elsewhere for less. Theres no visible affection for anything or respect for anyone in the existing community and even a sense of glee from some that they are going to upset as many people as possible.

This exactly sums up the way I feel too. Slapping the Amiga brand on any rebadged crap you usually see in Lidl, Aldi (NOK, Alba gear etc.) or other cheap supermarkets is not doing the brand any favours, just cheapening what was once a legendary name, anyone who remembers the Amiga will just look at it and be like "wow, sad what happened to the Amiga that it ended up on this crap!".  At least before it had died with a bit of dignity.

[brenry]

What I dont get is there is no interface connections to use a 1541 or cassette drive ?  They dont seem to be offering any add-on kit.  Are they just assuming you will go online and download the disk (c) images.. one file at a time? Do they just supply them with a TOSEC DVD collection?  Wikipedia shows software copyright infringement laws begin to start to expire in 2030.  Companies may be out of business but Ebay even continues to remove pirated collections.  And people continue to make large profits from old software there from collectors.

If they are banking on people who actually buy the disney movie rather than download the mkv file, they probably aren't smart enough to know the retro torrent communities in the first place.

This will be really interesting come next month when they get flooded with tech support calls from people on how to load their disks.. hahahaahahaha

[dammy]

A PPC board that runs AmigaOS 4... if you really can't tell the difference between a PPC board running AmigaOS 4 and a generic x86 running Windows 7/Linux and think they're both Amigas, then there's really no hope here.  The difference should be blindly obvious to any one.

You are glossing it over.  It was a generic PPC mobo with a botched chipset being dumped by the OEM before they went under and the early sales had Linux and not OS4 installed..  I sure can as heck compare it against generic x86 running AROS, both are 1990s Amiga OS like clones, just one didn't have a Amiga badge but ran on better quality, faster, and low cost hardware.

The OS is really the only defining factor in computers these days, Macs are not the same as PCs running Win 7 just because of the hardware similarities, what makes them a Mac?  Because they run the MacOS and run Mac apps, same with Amiga hardware, if it doesn't run AmigaOs or Amiga apps, it's not an Amiga.

On the flip side, the currently badged Amiga OS doesn't run on Commodore Amigas.  All in all, I don't need a 1990s OS, I need a modern (SMP/MP/MU) Amiga OS and I don't see that coming from the current Amiga community in any of the current flavors. I will wait to see if C=USA can come up with a true next generation Amiga type OS or not.  They haven't told us anything about their next generation OS, why damn them before they do so?

[dammy]

You mean Disney actually accepted to take their money in exchange for putting a piece of paper inside the casing? Wow yeah they must be REAL CLOSE :roflmao:

If I had money to waste I could have got flyers for Olivia Wild flavour lollipops to be put in there, if Disney had asked them and given them a 90% discount for the pleasure of being associated with them then I would be impressed. Anyone can advertise anything if they pay for it. Hell rubbish drivers can get behind the wheel of Formula 1 cars if they pay for the pleasure, this is no more significant.

Pay close attention, this is DISNEY, they don't do it that way.  Why don't you call and ask Disney yourself if you can advertise your product and see what they say?

[dammy]

What I dont get is there is no interface connections to use a 1541 or cassette drive ?  They dont seem to be offering any add-on kit.  Are they just assuming you will go online and download the disk (c) images.. one file at a time? Do they just supply them with a TOSEC DVD collection?  Wikipedia shows software copyright infringement laws begin to start to expire in 2030.  Companies may be out of business but Ebay even continues to remove pirated collections.  And people continue to make large profits from old software there from collectors.

There will be a app store to purchase C64 software.  I suspect it won't take too long before new games/apps to appear after it's opening.  I know, it's a foreign idea around here that Devs can make money from their work.

If they are banking on people who actually buy the disney movie rather than download the mkv file, they probably aren't smart enough to know the retro torrent communities in the first place.

Pathetic pirates are not the target market.

This will be really interesting come next month when they get flooded with tech support calls from people on how to load their disks.. hahahaahahaha

Tech support is done by a contractor.

[brenry]

dammy: let me get this straight... you are a mod on their forum, act unprofessional when representing them, and act like overall douche.

Their money would be better spent hiring Franko to promote their product than disney.  At least then you would have the C= community willing to listen.  You are just continuing to make enemies.  The same people who post on that forum were probably paid to say stuff like that as well on the facebook page.  They.. well.. they don't sound like real people.

You as your mod status and representing their company went off on some schpill  about mental help, when in reality it's probably mental patients you hired to type all cheery on the forums, playing kindergarten games of hoooray this will be so fun.

dammy you dummy

[brenry]

There will be a app store to purchase C64 software. I suspect it won't take too long before new games/apps to appear after it's opening. I know, it's a foreign idea around here that Devs can make money from their work. Pathetic pirates are not the target market..

Dammy you missed the point.  People have old treasured disks; geneology, ansi art they may had made as a kid, old letters / documents.  that stuff can't be bought.  And games / programs they already own ?

You are missing the point of nostalgia and just back up everyone's view on how they are approaching this.  It's a mod kit, and you said yourself.. you don't give a damn about people.. its about trying to ca$h in on the namebrand.